data warehouse

also referred to as: data warehouses

20 statements across 10 episodes · 7 bullish · 5 bearish · 11 people on the record · first statement Dec 5, 2013 by Arnab Gupta · across every show →

Everything said about data warehouse, oldest first

Dec 5, 2013 negative
Insight
Gupta: The term 'data warehouse' is an oxymoron
“The term data warehouse is now an oxymoron. Because data cannot be warehouse.”
Arnab Gupta Dec 5, 2013 ▶ 8:37 Arnab Gupta, Opera Solutions // Data Driven NYC #17 // June 2013
Mar 3, 2014 negative
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Steier: Data warehouses cannot run huge ad-hoc analyses on a whim
“The data warehouse is not capable of doing very large analyses for just, you know, on a whim by anybody who might happen to ask a question”
Sandy Steier Mar 3, 2014 ▶ 5:09 Sandy Steier, 1010data // Data Driven NYC 24 // February 2014 (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
Mar 3, 2014 negative
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Steier: Adding 10 billion rows to a data warehouse takes a long time
“If I need to, if I have a new data set, somebody hands me ten billion rows of data, and I want to do an analysis on it, you know, to get a data warehouse up and running, or to add that to an existing data warehouse is a non-trivial thing to do. It takes a long…”
Sandy Steier Mar 3, 2014 ▶ 7:28 Sandy Steier, 1010data // Data Driven NYC 24 // February 2014 (Hosted by FirstMark Capital)
Sep 18, 2020
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Fraser: BI dashboards are the most common data warehouse use case
“In practice, the most common use of data warehouses is to support business intelligence dashboards.”
George Fraser Sep 18, 2020 ▶ 6:04 Fireside Chat: George Fraser (Founder & CEO, Fivetran) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Sep 18, 2020 positive
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Fraser: In-warehouse transformation compute is cheaper than data engineering time
“The additional cost of compute and storage to replicate the extra data, to do those steps, those transformation steps inside the warehouse Are so small now, you know, they're less than what it's going to cost you to pay your data engineer for a week to build y…”
George Fraser Sep 18, 2020 ▶ 12:10 Fireside Chat: George Fraser (Founder & CEO, Fivetran) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Sep 18, 2020 positive
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Fraser: Cloud data warehouses render legacy tools like OLAP cubes obsolete
“The tools that you use to manage data and analyze data are actually getting simpler over the last 10 years. You don't need as many different things because a few tools, most importantly the data warehouse, Have gotten so much better over the last 10 years that…”
George Fraser Sep 18, 2020 ▶ 3:16 Fireside Chat: George Fraser (Founder & CEO, Fivetran) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Sep 18, 2020
Disclosure
Fraser: Fivetran has customers running billing out of their data warehouse
“We have customers who run billing out of their data warehouse.”
George Fraser Sep 18, 2020 ▶ 7:12 Fireside Chat: George Fraser (Founder & CEO, Fivetran) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Dec 11, 2020 positive
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Lowin: Modern tools let analysts query data warehouses directly over static CSVs
“If we think back to BI tools, say five, certainly 10 years ago, you would sort of beg for a CSV and God help you if the data, if the insight you weren't, the insight you were looking for was not in that CSV, you were sort of screwed. But now thanks to, you kno…”
Jeremiah Lowin Dec 11, 2020 ▶ 4:06 Fireside Chat: Jeremiah Lowin (Prefect), Tristan Handy (dbt) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Dec 11, 2020
Insight
Handy: Data lakes offer more flexibility but require more effort
“Where we are today, the data lake can kind of do anything. But it also probably takes more work to do anything. Whereas the data warehouse is, has a more constrained set of use cases, but it is much easier to get up and running for those constraints set of use…”
Tristan Handy Dec 11, 2020 ▶ 12:50 Fireside Chat: Jeremiah Lowin (Prefect), Tristan Handy (dbt) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Dec 11, 2020
Insight
Handy defines the modern data stack across four distinct functional layers
“When we talk about the modern data stack, we think about what's really four layers. So there's data ingestion. There's the data warehouse. There's data transformation or like taking all that raw data and like turning it into something valuable. And then there'…”
Tristan Handy Dec 11, 2020 ▶ 0:54 Fireside Chat: Jeremiah Lowin (Prefect), Tristan Handy (dbt) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Dec 11, 2020 bullish
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Handy: Reverse ETL will automate workflows and multiply the data market opportunity
“There's a class of tools that takes the data that is in your data warehouse and pushes it back to operational systems. And I think that you will, as soon as that starts happening, you can automate the entire process and all of these technologies become, you kn…”
Tristan Handy Dec 11, 2020 ▶ 53:48 Fireside Chat: Jeremiah Lowin (Prefect), Tristan Handy (dbt) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Dec 11, 2020 positive
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Handy: Data transformation has shifted inside data warehouses using SQL
“What's happening now or over the past, you know, five or so years, the, Transformation step now happens inside the data warehouse and it happens in SQL. And because of that, it is now accessible to a dramatically larger number of people.”
Tristan Handy Dec 11, 2020 ▶ 15:57 Fireside Chat: Jeremiah Lowin (Prefect), Tristan Handy (dbt) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Dec 11, 2020
Insight
Handy: Once sensitive data lands in a warehouse, it resists elimination
“If you land data in your warehouse, it is very hard to ever have it go away completely.”
Tristan Handy Dec 11, 2020 ▶ 56:04 Fireside Chat: Jeremiah Lowin (Prefect), Tristan Handy (dbt) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
May 24, 2021 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ghodsi: Open-source Lakehouses will eventually render proprietary data warehouses obsolete
“So slowly what's happening is that the open source realm An ecosystem is emerging where you can do all of your analytics in this lake house paradigm, and you don't, eventually it will be the case that you will not need all these other, you know, proprietary ol…”
Ali Ghodsi May 24, 2021 ▶ 20:16 Fireside Chat: Ali Ghodsi (Founder & CEO, Databricks) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Oct 27, 2021 neutral
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Dehghani: Enterprise data usage shifted from operational reporting to embedding ML in applications
“We've moved away from, okay, I'm going to run a few, set up a warehouse and get a few reports and get an insight into the operation of my organizations to actually I want to run, you know, include ML, a data-driven way of solving problems into every feature of…”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 2:27 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Oct 27, 2021 neutral
Opinion
Dehghani: The debate between data warehouses and lakes is irrelevant
“And I think this kind of funny war between warehouse and lake and web model We should access the data that that seems to me a little bit irrelevant because both of those access models are very acceptable.”
Zhamak Dehghani Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 12:33 Fireside Chat: Zhamak Dehghani (Founder, Data Mesh) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Oct 27, 2021 positive
Insight
Wu: Reverse ETL pipes warehouse data back into operational business systems
“Reverse ETLs change this paradigm by closing the loop. So these tools enable companies to pipe the transformed unified data from the warehouse back into the upstream business systems from which the data was generated.”
John Wu Oct 27, 2021 ▶ 21:10 Top 10 Trends in AI, Machine Learning and Data for 2022
Mar 17, 2022 negative
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Centralizing enterprise data in one warehouse will never solve all data problems
“Data repositories, data warehouses, they all argue that just move all of your data in one place, and it's going to solve all of your problems. We've been hearing that promise for the last 25 years, and it's never solved all of our problems, and it never will.”
Felix Van de Maele Mar 17, 2022 ▶ 12:02 Fireside Chat: Felix Van de Maele (Co-Founder & CEO, Collibra) with Matt Turck (Partner, FirstMark)
Apr 3, 2023 negative
Insight
Catanzaro: Cloud data warehouse transformation costs are surging due to compute
“Storage is cheap, but compute is not. And if you are preparing your data in a data warehouse, you're using compute, and your bill is going to get pretty high.”
Sarah Catanzaro Apr 3, 2023 ▶ 17:52 A Conversation with Sarah Catanzaro, Amplify Partners
Jan 23, 2025
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Ben Rogojan observed ML engineers at Facebook accessing data directly from warehouses
“Some companies do have maybe the ML engineers access data more directly from maybe the data warehouse, which was things I saw like at Facebook.”
Ben Rogojan (Seattle Data Guy) Jan 23, 2025 ▶ 8:29 Understanding Data Engineering in 2025 | Ben Rogojan, Seattle Data Guy
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