marketing
22 statements across 15 episodes · 6 bullish · 4 bearish · 15 people on the record · first statement Aug 18, 2022 by Arielle Jackson · across every show →
Everything said about marketing, oldest first
Aug 18, 2022 positive
Sep 11, 2022
Kramer: Do not hire marketers during bespoke founder-led sales
“Marketing is really good at accelerating growth and sort of doing things that scale sort of like one to many. So if you're still in the very like bespoke, like founder led sales, founder led marketing, like I'm doing discovery with each of these potential cust…”
Sep 11, 2022
Kramer: Product-led startups need to hire marketing earlier than enterprise models
“I think you need them earlier in product growth models because you're not gonna hire a salesperson then. So it's more like thinking about go to market holistically and saying, Like, you know, do I need one or two people here? And what is that? And so if you're…”
Sep 11, 2022 positive
Kramer: Product-led growth requires larger early marketing teams, not fewer marketers
“I think that product led growth is a misnomer. I think people will do anything they can possibly do and not call marketing marketing. I think we always see this. And so I think that product led growth really means not as much sales. Which means product plus ma…”
Sep 11, 2022 negative
Kramer: Hardcoding websites or using marketing-inaccessible CMS is a huge problem
“The website is something that's gonna need to be updated, like, 5000 times, and it needs to be on, like, Webflow, preferably at this point, or CMS that's easy to update, and if it's, like, built into the code base, that's like, or it's on a headless CMS, or it…”
Sep 29, 2022
Marketing should own freemium onboarding because freemium is a marketing tool
“It tends to be kind of like no man's land. Like who owns that? Is it marketing? Is it, if it's freemium, in my opinion, it should be marketing because freemium is a marketing tool, but like not everybody subscribes to that, right?”
Oct 16, 2022
Bastow: Separate soft and hard launches to avoid aligning dev and marketing
“So you're just separating soft launch from hard launch so that you don't have this stress of trying to line up two completely different types of projects, your marketing projects and your development projects, which is where a lot of those things fall apart.”
Oct 23, 2022 negative
Mosavat: Closer marketing partnership would have increased Slack impact
“What I think is I look at What could have moved the needle more and what could have made me a more sex successful leader at that company, it would have been partnering more closely with marketing, for instance, to figure out how we could be working on things t…”
Jan 22, 2023 positive
Jan 22, 2023
Dunford: Positioning must be a cross-functional exercise across executives, sales, and product
“If we're going to fix this thing, we can't just have the marketing department or just the product managers sit down and cook up new positioning and then heave it over the wall to everybody else. It actually needs to be a group effort. It's a team sport. So if …”
Apr 23, 2023 negative
Verna: Housing PLG or PLS within marketing fails within six months
“The worst thing that you can do is to say, I'm going to do product-led growth, or I'm going to do product-led sales, and I'm going to do it in marketing. Recipe for disaster. You will be failure mode within six months because product has to take accountability…”
Sep 24, 2023
Jul 21, 2024 positive
Jul 21, 2024 neutral
Sutherland: Marketers fail when assuming consumers share their high openness and desire to stand out
“What you have to realize working in marketing is that people in marketing are very high in openness to experience, very, very keen to stand out. Very keen to be distinctive. The majority of the population are much lower on openness to experience, they're much …”
Jul 21, 2024 positive
Jul 21, 2024
Sep 1, 2024 neutral
Product managers who are also strong marketers are exceedingly rare
“I think it's actually challenging to find product managers who are also really good marketers.
And so I think it's actually like a rare skillset and like the art of marketing and the art of talking, like conveying what you're building in the compelling way to …”
Dec 8, 2024
Mar 27, 2025 positive
Misra: Product Managers Should Own Marketing as Product Surface Area
“I actually think PMs should own all the way to marketing in a way. And the reason is that if you think about marketing, it's expanding the surface area of the product, right? It's like search marketing is just placing a button to your product in Google. Facebo…”
Sep 11, 2025 negative
Jan 25, 2026
Cohen: Monthly churn grows exponentially and inevitably overtakes linear marketing acquisition
“Cancellations automatically grow as you grow, even if you're doing everything right, but marketing doesn't. Marketing grows only as fast as you can improve marketing. We all know that's quite hard. Actually it's linear. It's hard to find new channels that aren…”
Apr 12, 2026
Rabois: Alpha in marketing and design comes from storytelling, not tools
“I think the alpha is in design, just like in marketing. It's not the tools. It's not the channels, not the metrics. It's the storytelling. It's How do you cut through the clutter in the snappiest, most compelling possible way?”