marketing

22 statements across 15 episodes · 6 bullish · 4 bearish · 15 people on the record · first statement Aug 18, 2022 by Arielle Jackson · across every show →

Everything said about marketing, oldest first

Aug 18, 2022 positive
Insight
Jackson: Product Positioning Must Precede Naming and Marketing
“I really believe that positioning dictates so much of your marketing and should always be the first thing you do.”
Arielle Jackson Aug 18, 2022 ▶ 19:26 The art of building legendary brands | Arielle Jackson (Google, Square, First Round Capital)
Sep 11, 2022
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Kramer: Do not hire marketers during bespoke founder-led sales
“Marketing is really good at accelerating growth and sort of doing things that scale sort of like one to many. So if you're still in the very like bespoke, like founder led sales, founder led marketing, like I'm doing discovery with each of these potential cust…”
Emily Kramer Sep 11, 2022 ▶ 27:38 How to build a powerful marketing machine | Emily Kramer (Asana, Carta, MKT1)
Sep 11, 2022
Insight
Kramer: Product-led startups need to hire marketing earlier than enterprise models
“I think you need them earlier in product growth models because you're not gonna hire a salesperson then. So it's more like thinking about go to market holistically and saying, Like, you know, do I need one or two people here? And what is that? And so if you're…”
Emily Kramer Sep 11, 2022 ▶ 28:05 How to build a powerful marketing machine | Emily Kramer (Asana, Carta, MKT1)
Sep 11, 2022 positive
Insight
Kramer: Product-led growth requires larger early marketing teams, not fewer marketers
“I think that product led growth is a misnomer. I think people will do anything they can possibly do and not call marketing marketing. I think we always see this. And so I think that product led growth really means not as much sales. Which means product plus ma…”
Emily Kramer Sep 11, 2022 ▶ 37:09 How to build a powerful marketing machine | Emily Kramer (Asana, Carta, MKT1)
Sep 11, 2022 negative
Insight
Kramer: Hardcoding websites or using marketing-inaccessible CMS is a huge problem
“The website is something that's gonna need to be updated, like, 5000 times, and it needs to be on, like, Webflow, preferably at this point, or CMS that's easy to update, and if it's, like, built into the code base, that's like, or it's on a headless CMS, or it…”
Emily Kramer Sep 11, 2022 ▶ 38:50 How to build a powerful marketing machine | Emily Kramer (Asana, Carta, MKT1)
Sep 29, 2022
Opinion
Marketing should own freemium onboarding because freemium is a marketing tool
“It tends to be kind of like no man's land. Like who owns that? Is it marketing? Is it, if it's freemium, in my opinion, it should be marketing because freemium is a marketing tool, but like not everybody subscribes to that, right?”
Georgiana Laudi (Gia) Sep 29, 2022 ▶ 13:22 Customer-led growth | Georgiana Laudi (Forget The Funnel)
Oct 16, 2022
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Bastow: Separate soft and hard launches to avoid aligning dev and marketing
“So you're just separating soft launch from hard launch so that you don't have this stress of trying to line up two completely different types of projects, your marketing projects and your development projects, which is where a lot of those things fall apart.”
Janna Bastow Oct 16, 2022 ▶ 30:46 Building better roadmaps | Janna Bastow (Mind the Product, ProdPad)
Oct 23, 2022 negative
What-if
Mosavat: Closer marketing partnership would have increased Slack impact
“What I think is I look at What could have moved the needle more and what could have made me a more sex successful leader at that company, it would have been partnering more closely with marketing, for instance, to figure out how we could be working on things t…”
Fareed Mosavat Oct 23, 2022 ▶ 49:25 How to build trust and grow as a product leader | Fareed Mosavat (Reforge, Slack, Instacart, Pixar)
Jan 22, 2023 positive
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Dunford: Marketing and sales activities flow downstream from positioning
“So I need to have positioning figured out first, and then practically everything I do in marketing and sales flows downstream from that.”
April Dunford Jan 22, 2023 ▶ 41:36 How to nail your product positioning | April Dunford (Obviously Awesome)
Jan 22, 2023
Insight
Dunford: Positioning must be a cross-functional exercise across executives, sales, and product
“If we're going to fix this thing, we can't just have the marketing department or just the product managers sit down and cook up new positioning and then heave it over the wall to everybody else. It actually needs to be a group effort. It's a team sport. So if …”
April Dunford Jan 22, 2023 ▶ 14:30 How to nail your product positioning | April Dunford (Obviously Awesome)
Apr 23, 2023 negative
Insight
Verna: Housing PLG or PLS within marketing fails within six months
“The worst thing that you can do is to say, I'm going to do product-led growth, or I'm going to do product-led sales, and I'm going to do it in marketing. Recipe for disaster. You will be failure mode within six months because product has to take accountability…”
Elena Verna Apr 23, 2023 ▶ 56:07 The ultimate guide to product-led sales | Elena Verna
Sep 24, 2023
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wise's most effective acquisition campaign was simply emailing customers its core mission
“And we wrote our mission and sent it to our customers. We got more new customers from that email being forwarded around than any other kind of marketing.”
Nilan Peiris Sep 24, 2023 ▶ 32:38 How to drive word of mouth | Nilan Peiris (CPO of Wise)
Jul 21, 2024 positive
Insight
Sutherland: Marketing, timing, and luck drive innovation adoption
“Marketing plays and timing and luck, by the way, let's also include those. These other factors play a much greater role in both the speed of adoption and the success of adoption of anything remotely new or innovative.”
Rory Sutherland Jul 21, 2024 ▶ 44:40 What most people miss about marketing | Rory Sutherland (Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, author)
Jul 21, 2024 neutral
Insight
Sutherland: Marketers fail when assuming consumers share their high openness and desire to stand out
“What you have to realize working in marketing is that people in marketing are very high in openness to experience, very, very keen to stand out. Very keen to be distinctive. The majority of the population are much lower on openness to experience, they're much …”
Rory Sutherland Jul 21, 2024 ▶ 1:05:24 What most people miss about marketing | Rory Sutherland (Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, author)
Jul 21, 2024 positive
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Sutherland: People forget marketing was instrumental when products succeed
“Because when a product succeeds, everybody forgets the fact that it was the marketing that was instrumental to its success.”
Rory Sutherland Jul 21, 2024 ▶ 41:37 What most people miss about marketing | Rory Sutherland (Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, author)
Jul 21, 2024
Insight
Sutherland: Short-term metrics grotesquely undervalue the business contribution of advertising
“Attempts to evaluate advertising on short term transactional metrics will always grotesquely undervalue The contribution of that activity to your ultimate business success.”
Rory Sutherland Jul 21, 2024 ▶ 1:14:33 What most people miss about marketing | Rory Sutherland (Vice Chairman of Ogilvy UK, author)
Sep 1, 2024 neutral
Insight
Product managers who are also strong marketers are exceedingly rare
“I think it's actually challenging to find product managers who are also really good marketers. And so I think it's actually like a rare skillset and like the art of marketing and the art of talking, like conveying what you're building in the compelling way to …”
Vlad Loktev Sep 1, 2024 ▶ 1:25:09 Embracing chaos, inquiry over advocacy, poking the bear, and “impact, impact, impact” | Vlad Loktev
Dec 8, 2024
Insight
Godin: Marketing is the product, not something handed off to brand afterward
“Marketing is the product. You don't make a product and then hand it to some marketing Yahoo and say, go put a logo on this.”
Seth Godin Dec 8, 2024 ▶ 12:20 Seth Godin's best tactics for building remarkable products, strategies, brands and more
Mar 27, 2025 positive
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Misra: Product Managers Should Own Marketing as Product Surface Area
“I actually think PMs should own all the way to marketing in a way. And the reason is that if you think about marketing, it's expanding the surface area of the product, right? It's like search marketing is just placing a button to your product in Google. Facebo…”
Gaurav Misra Mar 27, 2025 ▶ 53:10 How to win in the AI era: Ship weekly, embrace technical debt, ruthlessly cut scope, and more
Sep 11, 2025 negative
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Horowitz: CEOs Cannot Train Functional Leaders in Areas They Don't Know
“The idea that you're going to take somebody who doesn't, who isn't world-class at marketing and make them world-class, and you don't know anything about marketing is a dumb idea. It just doesn't work.”
Ben Horowitz Sep 11, 2025 ▶ 26:21 $46B of hard truths: Why founders fail and why you need to run toward fear | Ben Horowitz (a16z)
Jan 25, 2026
Insight
Cohen: Monthly churn grows exponentially and inevitably overtakes linear marketing acquisition
“Cancellations automatically grow as you grow, even if you're doing everything right, but marketing doesn't. Marketing grows only as fast as you can improve marketing. We all know that's quite hard. Actually it's linear. It's hard to find new channels that aren…”
Jason Cohen Jan 25, 2026 ▶ 15:32 The surprising advice from a founder who built 2 unicorns | Jason Cohen (WP Engine)
Apr 12, 2026
Insight
Rabois: Alpha in marketing and design comes from storytelling, not tools
“I think the alpha is in design, just like in marketing. It's not the tools. It's not the channels, not the metrics. It's the storytelling. It's How do you cut through the clutter in the snappiest, most compelling possible way?”
Keith Rabois Apr 12, 2026 ▶ 44:06 Hard truths about building in the AI era | Keith Rabois (Khosla Ventures)
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