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Qiu: Models lack reasoning because the internet lacks explicit reasoning data
“And models today, they're not optimized for reasoning. It turns out that there's not actually that much explicit reasoning data on the internet.”
Kanjun Qiu Oct 21, 2023 ▶ 13:03 Why AI Agents Don't Work (yet) - with Kanjun Qiu of Imbue
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Qiu: Synthetic code data can improve reasoning better than human code
“Code also is a big piece of improving reasoning. So yeah generated code is not That much worse than, like, regular human written code. You might even say it could be better in a lot of ways.”
Kanjun Qiu Oct 21, 2023 ▶ 22:17 Why AI Agents Don't Work (yet) - with Kanjun Qiu of Imbue
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Qiu: Pure reinforcement learning cannot deliver planning and reasoning
“The second thing we learned is that reinforcement learning is not a good vehicle. Like, pure reinforcement learning is not a good vehicle for planning and reasoning.”
Kanjun Qiu Oct 21, 2023 ▶ 25:16 Why AI Agents Don't Work (yet) - with Kanjun Qiu of Imbue
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Kanjun Qiu: Most autonomous AI agents do not work well today
“So to your question of, like, what agents work well and what doesn't work well, like, most of the agents don't work well, and we're slowly making them work better by improving the underlying model and improving these.”
Kanjun Qiu Oct 21, 2023 ▶ 30:05 Why AI Agents Don't Work (yet) - with Kanjun Qiu of Imbue
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Kanjun Qiu: Chat is a skeuomorphic, primitive interface for AI agents
“Chat as an interface is skeuomorphic. So in the early days, when we made word processors on our computers, they had notepad lines because that's what we understood you know, these like objects to be chat. Like texting someone is something we understand. So tex…”
Kanjun Qiu Oct 21, 2023 ▶ 38:39 Why AI Agents Don't Work (yet) - with Kanjun Qiu of Imbue
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Qiu: RAG is inadequate for scientific AI reasoning and cumulative synthesis
“I don't think RAG is enough for that kind of thing. But RAG is certainly enough for, like, user preferences and things like that.”
Kanjun Qiu Oct 21, 2023 ▶ 49:33 Why AI Agents Don't Work (yet) - with Kanjun Qiu of Imbue
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Kanjun Qiu: Agent reliability's final 20% is as hard as self-driving cars
“Agents haven't been productized yet for, partly for this reason, is that, like, the abstractions are very leaky. You know, we can get, like, 80% of the way there, but, like, self-driving cars, like, the remaining 20% is actually really difficult.”
Kanjun Qiu Oct 21, 2023 ▶ 18:44 Why AI Agents Don't Work (yet) - with Kanjun Qiu of Imbue
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Qiu: RL algorithms do not work at all without a curriculum
“One is with no curriculum, RL algorithms don't work at all.”
Kanjun Qiu Oct 21, 2023 ▶ 24:30 Why AI Agents Don't Work (yet) - with Kanjun Qiu of Imbue
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Qiu: Code is the most explicit reasoning curriculum for AI models
“Code is the most explicit example of reasoning data on the internet. Yeah. And it's not only structured, it's actually very explicit, which is nice. You know, it says this variable means this and then it uses this variable and then the function does this. Like…”
Kanjun Qiu Oct 21, 2023 ▶ 36:16 Why AI Agents Don't Work (yet) - with Kanjun Qiu of Imbue
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Qiu: Recruiting software suffers high churn because success halts hiring
“Recruiting is a market that is endogenously high churn. Which means, because people start hiring, and then we hire the role for them, and they stop hiring.”
Kanjun Qiu Oct 21, 2023 ▶ 5:42 Why AI Agents Don't Work (yet) - with Kanjun Qiu of Imbue
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Qiu: AI will provide free intellectual energy like the Industrial Revolution
“And what's happened over the last 150 years since the Industrial Revolution is we've kind of gotten free energy. Like, energy is way more free than it was a 150 years ago. And so, as a result, we've built all these technologies, like the stove, and the dishwas…”
Kanjun Qiu Oct 21, 2023 ▶ 8:48 Why AI Agents Don't Work (yet) - with Kanjun Qiu of Imbue
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