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SWE-Bench public test splits enable trivial cheating via runtime PR retrieval
“The entire test split here is public. So you can do things like just overfit to the patches in the test set. You can do things like, let me add at runtime, pull the PR and just get the answer and just use it.”
Jesse Hu Oct 19, 2024 ▶ 15:00 [Paper Club] SWE-Bench [OpenAI Verified/Multimodal] + MLE-Bench with Jesse Hu
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Hu: OpenAI o1-preview surpasses human Kaggle Grandmasters with seven gold medals
“Since a grandmaster requires five gold medals and oh, and preview gets an average of eight or sorry, seven gold medals. They're out competing even capital grandmasters.”
Jesse Hu Oct 19, 2024 ▶ 47:29 [Paper Club] SWE-Bench [OpenAI Verified/Multimodal] + MLE-Bench with Jesse Hu
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Jesse Hu: Frontier models have effectively capped out HumanEval performance
“I think through multiple techniques and through the most recent models, you can actually basically cap out on the performance on human eval.”
Jesse Hu Oct 19, 2024 ▶ 1:21 [Paper Club] SWE-Bench [OpenAI Verified/Multimodal] + MLE-Bench with Jesse Hu
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Hu: GPU setups showed virtually no agent performance gain over CPU-only
“They compared a CPU only setup to a GPU setup to a multi GPU setup, and it kind of made no difference really.”
Jesse Hu Oct 19, 2024 ▶ 49:40 [Paper Club] SWE-Bench [OpenAI Verified/Multimodal] + MLE-Bench with Jesse Hu
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Hu: Single MLE-bench evaluation run with OpenAI o1-preview costs $4,000
“Just for one seed, For one run of these things cost 4000 dollars all in with the GPU plus the tokens. And a bulk of the cost was actually the token, so even if you cut the GPU out, it'll still cost you three grand to run on one preview.”
Jesse Hu Oct 19, 2024 ▶ 50:38 [Paper Club] SWE-Bench [OpenAI Verified/Multimodal] + MLE-Bench with Jesse Hu
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Hu: MLE-bench authors found obfuscating competition details did not show overfitting
“They do a lot of checks against overfitting on the Kaggle tasks themselves, and so they do something where they obfuscate some of the details of the Of the competitions, and then they rerun it. And I guess if they were overfitting on the competitions themselve…”
Jesse Hu Oct 19, 2024 ▶ 52:19 [Paper Club] SWE-Bench [OpenAI Verified/Multimodal] + MLE-Bench with Jesse Hu
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Hu: SWE-bench scores jumped from 3% on GPT-4 RAG to 43%
“If we just use GPT-IV plus RAG, what do we get? It's, like, a measly three percent. And then up to the most recent submissions where they get up to 43%.”
Jesse Hu Oct 19, 2024 ▶ 7:40 [Paper Club] SWE-Bench [OpenAI Verified/Multimodal] + MLE-Bench with Jesse Hu
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Hu: Honeycomb agent framework ranks number one on full SWE-bench dataset
“And then there's another one called Honeycomb, which also scored really well, and I think is number one on the full set.”
Jesse Hu Oct 19, 2024 ▶ 31:30 [Paper Club] SWE-Bench [OpenAI Verified/Multimodal] + MLE-Bench with Jesse Hu
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SWE-bench Multimodal paper baseline scores 12 percent
“They want to show off that this is, you know, guys, this is really hard. It's a really hard benchmark, so we can only get 12% on it today. According to, you know, their implementation.”
Jesse Hu Oct 19, 2024 ▶ 34:48 [Paper Club] SWE-Bench [OpenAI Verified/Multimodal] + MLE-Bench with Jesse Hu
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Hu: OpenAI o1-preview achieves bronze medals in 17% of MLE-bench competitions
“Their final results with a one preview and this a scaffolding from a different company was that they got a bronze medal. I don't think I've ever achieved once but I haven't competed that much in. 17% of competitions.”
Jesse Hu Oct 19, 2024 ▶ 45:06 [Paper Club] SWE-Bench [OpenAI Verified/Multimodal] + MLE-Bench with Jesse Hu
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