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Opinion
Berkeley Function Calling Leaderboard is unsuitable for realistic agent evaluation
“This BFCL if you just open and check it you would be like, okay, this is okay, but you don't want to use it for realistic evaluation because it's like some math. Problem statement is given. Some simple tool is given just like, let's say some exponential tool, …”
Pratik Bhavsar Jul 14, 2025 ▶ 25:47 ⚡️Ranking Agentic LLMs — Pratik Bhavsar, Galileo
Insight
Function calling benchmarks like BFCL are largely saturated
“I find that a lot of these evals are mostly saturated, like for BFCL. All the models are near, near the top. Already. And kind of the errors are more, I would say like just differences in default behaviors. I think most of the models on the leaderboard can kin…”
Michelle Pokrass Sep 17, 2024 ▶ 23:54 Building AGI with OpenAI's Structured Outputs API
Opinion
BFCL v1 introduced AST-based evaluation for executable functions
“And then the main, like, I think sort of the main innovation of this first version of the leaderboard was that it used this, it introduced this like abstract syntax tree. Evaluation where it would look at the executable functions and evaluate them”
Sam Julien Oct 5, 2024 ▶ 3:52 [Paper Club] Berkeley Function Calling Paper Club! — Sam Julien, Writer
Assertion Contradicted
Julien: BFCL v1 was the first dedicated LLM function calling benchmark
“So the first one that came out, like I said, in March was really the first of its kind to Make a function calling leaderboard.”
Sam Julien Oct 5, 2024 ▶ 2:10 [Paper Club] Berkeley Function Calling Paper Club! — Sam Julien, Writer
Assertion Supported
Julien: BFCL v3 shifted from AST to state-based evaluation
“So they really updated their evaluation from the abstract syntax tree to something called state-based evaluation, which we'll, we'll talk about in just a second.”
Sam Julien Oct 5, 2024 ▶ 8:24 [Paper Club] Berkeley Function Calling Paper Club! — Sam Julien, Writer
Assertion Not yet assessed · timeframe Oct 2024
BFCL v3 generates evaluation tasks using graph edge construction
“They basically created their own API for the sake of this testing, and then did this like mapping to create a graph edge construction and like generate tasks through that.”
Sam Julien Oct 5, 2024 ▶ 10:46 [Paper Club] Berkeley Function Calling Paper Club! — Sam Julien, Writer
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