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Colvin: Pydantic AI will be first framework implementing OpenTelemetry GenAI attributes

Samuel Colvin · Agent Engineering with Pydantic + Graphs — with Samuel Colvin, CEO of Pydantic Logfire · Feb 6, 2025 · at 35:25

Samuel Colvin, founder and CEO of Pydantic, discusses OpenTelemetry standardization efforts for Generative AI observability and agent frameworks.

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“I suspect Pedantic AI will be the first agent framework that implements those semantic attributes properly, because again, we control Pedantic AI, and we can say this is important for observability, whereas most of the other agent frameworks are not maintained by people who are trying to do observability, with the exception of Langchain, where they have the observability platform, but they chose not to go down the open telemetry route”

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