Jed Borovik, Product Lead at Google Labs, discusses the product and engineering paradigms emerging around autonomous AI coding agents like Jules.
Insight
Borovik: Agent scaffolding gets simpler as underlying models improve
“I think one of the things we've seen is the scaffolds get simpler and simpler over time as the models get better. And in some ways, this, the scaffolding is almost a crutch for things the model struggles with. For example, like, you know, really complicated su…”
Opinion
Jed Borovik: AI coding tools will not reduce software engineer hiring
“I don't really Buy this, like, you know, that we're not gonna hire more software engineers story. I think, like, for a few reasons I mean, this is an example that, that often comes up, but is it, like, kind of the elasticity of the demand for software?”
Insight
Autonomous coding agents require dedicated computing environments over local workspaces
“Autonomous, you know, means, like, it has its own computer, right? So for Jules, it's, you know, the end. Yeah, exactly. So tons of agents that run, you know, locally or in your workspace with you while you're coding but if you want something that's going to r…”
Assertion Supported
Google Labs' Jules Partners with GitHub for Agent HQ
“Jules is, yeah, partnering with GitHub for the new agent HQ stuff, which we're excited about.”
Assertion Supported
Borovik: Google built internal AI coding tools in Cider IDE for years
“Being Google, we built a lot of our own tools and, you know, cider, which, you know, folks maybe have heard of is our, you know, our internal IDE and we've had all kinds of, you know, capabilities and tools there for a while. So yes, you know, we certainly hav…”
Disclosure
Google Labs launched Jules CLI, plans integration with Gemini CLI
“So we have the dual CLI we launched a couple of weeks ago, which lets you interact with it. By the time this podcast comes out, we'll be in the integrated with the Gemini CLI.”