Sander Schulhoff, creator of LearnPrompting.org and lead author of The Prompt Report, explains why explicit Chain of Thought prompting remains necessary despite improvements in newer language models.
“I remember I did a lot of experiments with GPT-IV, and especially when you look at it at scale, so I'll run thousands of prompts against it through the API, and I'll see, you know, every one in a hundred, every one in a thousand outputs no reasoning whatsoever, and I need it to output reasoning, and it's worth the few extra tokens to have that
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