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Murray: Out-of-the-box agent architecture adds state management complexity

Cole Murray · Devin’s 80% Moment: Background Agents, 7x PRs, & End of Hand-Held Coding — Walden Yan & Cole Murray · May 28, 2026 · at 13:15

Cole Murray (OpenInspect creator) discusses the architectural trade-offs between hosting AI agent harnesses inside sandboxed environments versus running the control plane externally.

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“In my opinion, running it out of the box is much more complex because you have state that has to be managed. Whereas if you're running it in the box all of the state of that agent is actually in the box. And yes, it's, you could persist it elsewhere, but it's all kind of localized and you have less concerns to worry about.”

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