Ashvin Nair, former OpenAI reasoning researcher and engineer at Cursor, discusses his PhD research at UC Berkeley and the disconnect between academic RL hype and real-world utility.
“A lot of the methods that people were really excited about is, like you know, off policy learning, like, value functions, like, these kind of things, and somehow that, that stuff hasn't really panned out, I would say, and it's not exactly clear why, but in the academic literature, we thought we were making a ton of progress. And I think in retrospect, I had to say that we probably kind of overfit to the benchmarks pretty heavily, and, you know, how I see this in retrospect is that we gave ourselves a lot of, like, new knobs to tune, and then implicitly kind of tuned those to fit the benchmarks.”
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