Swyx: AI is too volatile for utility-style government regulation
Shawn Wang · Podcast Crossover: AIE, AGI, frontier lab strategy with @matthew_berman and @swyxtv · Jul 10, 2026 · at 9:54
Shawn Wang (Swyx) and Matthew Berman debate whether governments will treat foundation models and frontier AI labs like regulated public utilities.
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“I think this thing is too volatile to treat as a utility, right? Like imagine if like Edison was like, you know, working on his like electrical stuff and light and Lighting and all that. And you immediately try to regulate it. Like, no, you'll probably wait 50 years first. So it's, like, a little unfair to me, like, in 20, 25, you know, like, four, three, four years after ChatGPT to be like, no, like, we should regulate it now like a utility because it's, there's no more innovation to be had, and you should just leave it to natural monopolies and charge, like, cost plus. Like, I don't think that's, we're there yet. I think we need to wait another few decades.”
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