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Lambert: Reasoning models solved basic skills; planning is the next frontier

Nathan Lambert · The RLVR Revolution — with Nathan Lambert (AI2, Interconnects.ai) · Jul 31, 2025 · at 38:34

Nathan Lambert, post-training researcher at AI2, outlines his taxonomy of AI reasoning models on the Latent Space podcast.

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“So I came up with four and the foundational one was skills, which is What I would say that we have already done with O-one and R-one, which is you do a lot of RL, you show the inference time scaling works and you get really high benchmark numbers. And then the next three are kind of what comes next. And most of them are around planning.”

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