John V: BT6 waives open-source stance if needed to test frontier models
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John V, co-founder of the AI red-teaming collective BT6, explains the group's policy regarding confidentiality agreements and open-sourcing vulnerability data when partnering with frontier AI labs.
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“We have an ethos in our hacker collective. Which is radical transparency and radical open source. And what that basically means is if it comes down to, you know, us being an emerging technology is like red team doing like ethical hacking and research and development. If an organization that's on the frontier says, well, we really want you to test this or check this out, kick the tires, give us feedback, poke holes in it, whatever. But in the contract, it says you can't kiss and tell. And we said, well, we really want you to open source the data. And then they say, well, then we don't really want you to come kick the tires anymore. Well, if it's between us touching the latest and greatest tech to explore it and push the limits, right. Then we're going to do that. So we're open source up until we can't be, that's the best way I describe it.”
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