“These models are becoming more efficient in the way they're thinking, as they're able to do more with the same amount of test time compute, and I think that's a very underappreciated point, that it's not just that we're getting these models to think for longer. In fact, if you look at O-three, it's thinking for longer than O-one preview for some questions, but it's not, like, a radical difference, but it's way better. Why? Because it's just, like, becoming better at thinking.”
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