Stefano Ermon, Stanford professor and Inception Labs CEO, explains why open-source autoregressive LLM checkpoints cannot be easily repurposed for discrete diffusion language models.
“The challenge is that, yeah, the training objective is quite different because you are training based on denoising as opposed to next token prediction. Diffusion models are not causal and that is also kind of problematic. I mean, it's a big advantage of diffusion models that you don't have to be causal. You can actually look at the whole context to the left and to the right. As you decide, kind of like the edits that you want to do, which is giving, you know, it's a very powerful thing if you think about how you generate objects, but that makes it quite different, quite difficult to adapt kind of like models that have been trained with causal masking to this new task.”
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