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Zhang: SA-Co Benchmark Will Likely Outlast SAM 3

Pengchuan Zhang · SAM 3: The Eyes for AI — Nikhila & Pengchuan (Meta Superintelligence), ft. Joseph Nelson (Roboflow) · Dec 18, 2025 · at 1:13:23

Pengchuan Zhang, AI researcher at Meta Superintelligence / FAIR, discusses the release of SAM 3 and the long-term utility of the accompanying benchmark for tracking AI vision capabilities.

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“I would say that it's likely that the benchmark will last longer than our Samsung model. Maybe kind of next year there will be a stronger model, but the benchmark is kind of the one that I hope to guide the community to kind of get better and better models kind of to get to a kind of way measure human performance on the benchmark.”

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