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Shah: Future AI will invent novel UI primitives beyond traditional controls

Dharmesh Shah · The Agent Network — Dharmesh Shah, Agent.ai + CTO of HubSpot · Mar 28, 2025 · at 52:18

HubSpot CTO Dharmesh Shah predicts how generative artificial intelligence will transform UI design and user interaction models.

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“Where AI is going to be headed on, I think, on the UI front is the same place as headed on the science front. That originally it's like, oh, well, based on the things that we know right now, it'll sort of combine them, but we're like right at the cusp of it being able to actual novel research. So maybe a future version of AI comes up with a new set of primitives that actually work better for human computer interaction than things that we've done in the past, right? It's like, I don't think it's, it ended with the checkbox radio button and dropdown list, right? I think there's life beyond that.”

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