Leadership coach Diana Chapman critiques the hero archetype within the Karpman Drama Triangle framework on The Knowledge Project.
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“In order to hero, you need victims. And then that means you are requiring people to be disempowered so you can hero. And that's not such a, you know, that's how we're just going to create more battles amongst us.”
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