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Nejatian: Turnarounds Succeed by Tracking Granular Accountability Repeatedly Over Time

Kaz Nejatian · Excellence Is the Capacity to Take Pain · Jul 21, 2026 · at 44:32

Kaz Nejatian, executive at Opendoor and Shopify, compares corporate turnaround frameworks to addiction recovery methods during a discussion on personal discipline with Shane Parrish.

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“There's a reason why AA works so well. Because you do things. You track your accountability. Like, day one, week one, month one. You track over and over again, thing, your accountability. And you do the right thing over and over again. And the score tends to take care of itself over a very long period of time. And I think that pattern tends to be one that is repeatable over and over again.”

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