Repeated disagreements with Amazon ultimately led to Mackey's retirement
John Mackey · John Mackey: Building Whole Foods · Oct 29, 2024 · at 1:20:02
John Mackey, co-founder of Whole Foods Market, reflects on the aftermath of the 2017 Amazon acquisition and what prompted his departure.
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“I had my share of disagreements with Amazon. I fought with them many times, and ultimately that led to me to retire.”
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