Tech companies mistakenly optimize for trackable growth over long-term durability
David Senra · The Obsession That Creates Enduring Companies | David Senra Interview · Invest Like The Best · May 6, 2025 · at 8:58
David Senra, creator of Founders Podcast, discusses why enduring companies generate their largest profits decades into their existence, citing Peter Thiel's Zero to One.
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“There's a big problem with technology companies is they optimize for growth at the expense of durability. But if you look at when do these giant companies, and he said tech companies, but you see this in all these companies, Raising Cane's is another example, where like they actually make more money three, four, five, six decades into the future, all the real money's out there. So therefore, if you're optimizing for growth at the expense of durability, you're never gonna get to the real rewards. And the reason you do that is because growth you can track, and durability you cannot.”
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