Nov 7, 2016 · 31m · how-i-built-this
Music Mogul: L.A. Reid
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In this episode of How I Built This, legendary music executive L.A. Reid chronicles his journey from Cincinnati drummer and hitmaking producer to building LaFace Records and leading major music labels. Reid candidly reflects on discovering iconic superstars like TLC, P!nk, and Rihanna while navigating high-stakes corporate politics, industry backlash, and executive leadership.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Guy holds 30.5% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
speaking balance: gold is Guy, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
When Raz asks if Reid was fired for being hard to work with, Reid rejects the framing and brings up the systemic reality of being the only Black executive in the room.
Hardest push from Guy ▶ 18:51 Challenging the decision to replace Clive DavisRaz challenges Reid on whether he was forced to take over Arista instead of simply taking his buyout money and launching a separate venture.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 19:10 Explaining executive acquisition valueReid schools Raz on major label acquisitions, explaining that the company was not merely buying past catalog assets but acquiring Reid's future management and talent radar.
Guy holds their own ▶ 10:08 Cataloging the 35 number one hitsRaz demonstrates deep contextual knowledge of Reid's songwriting output and prompts Reid on the exact hitmaking formula used for artists like Whitney Houston.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Guy as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Guy pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cincinnati Beginnings: From Basement Drummer to Local Bands | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Guy Raz gently guides the narrative through Reid's early musical roots in Cincinnati and his chance meeting with Babyface Edmonds. Reid is open and reflective, sharing personal anecdotes about forming The Deele without friction. | |
| Crafting Thirty-Five Number One Hits with Babyface | 4 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Raz asks about hitmaking mechanics and managing egos. Reid explains how band leadership directly translates into corporate management and recounts Clive Davis pointing out that their initial failure was a talent issue. | |
| Mid-Show Intermission: The Search for a Movie Deal | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Raz and Reid recount the turning point of pitching the Boomerang soundtrack to Reginald and Warrington Hudlin. The exchange is deeply collaborative and storytelling-focused. | |
| The Sale to Arista and Clive Davis Succession | 4 | 3 | 2 | 3 | Raz presses Reid on why he did not just take the money and walk away instead of ousting Clive Davis. Reid reframes the business model, explaining that the acquirer was purchasing his talent curation rather than just back catalogs. | |
| Spotting P!nk, Usher, and OutKast's Massive Triumphs | 4 | 2 | 2 | 2 | Raz questions Reid on whether he was difficult to work with prior to being fired from Arista. Reid counters thoughtfully by discussing the racial isolation of being the sole Black corporate label head at that executive tier. | |
| Island Def Jam Leadership, Rihanna, and Juggling Chaos | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Reid describes his rapid signing of Rihanna alongside Jay-Z and his instinctual signing philosophy. Raz probes whether Reid still views himself as an entrepreneur despite working inside corporate majors. | |
| Skill Versus Luck and Signing Meghan Trainor at Epic | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Raz asks Reid to evaluate skill versus luck, leading Reid to split the difference 50/50. The remainder of the segment features Raz's outro summary and the listener entrepreneur segment with Kent Sheridan. | |
| Podcast Recommendation: All Songs Considered | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | A brief promotional housekeeping segment where Raz recommends the NPR podcast All Songs Considered. |