green hydrogen

20 statements across 13 episodes · 9 bullish · 4 bearish · 12 people on the record · first statement Mar 29, 2022 by Sheldon Kimber · across every show →

Everything said about green hydrogen, oldest first

Mar 29, 2022 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Mar 2072
Kimber: Five clean energy sectors will become multi-hundred-billion industries
“So, you know, those five industries are what we've identified as, you know, the areas where we think there is inevitable growth in the sort of hundreds of billions of dollars. These are industries that could easily be some of the largest industries that our pl…”
Sheldon Kimber Mar 29, 2022 ▶ 4:08 The ‘inevitable industries’ that will decarbonize the world [branded content]
Aug 3, 2022 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Corbeau: EU green hydrogen goal requires 500 TWh of renewable electricity
“Ten million tons of Green hydrogen produced domestically. This is an additional 500 terawatt hours of the renewable capacity. That's about 70% of what we are producing right now in Europe.”
Anne-Sophie Corbeau Aug 3, 2022 ▶ 24:09 How bad will Europe's gas crisis get?
Mar 28, 2023 bullish
Disclosure
Adams: LADWP plans to convert all in-basin generating stations to green hydrogen
“But our plan now is to move all those generating stations into green hydrogen, so we can have dispatchable power locally, but it burns clean.”
Marty Adams Mar 28, 2023 ▶ 10:30 Live: The most ambitious city energy transition in America
Mar 28, 2023 bullish
Disclosure
Adams: LADWP to transition Intermountain Power Project to 100% green hydrogen
“That plan now is to transition that gas plant from an initial blend of gas and about 30% green hydrogen. That's green hydrogen created by electrolysis and stored locally. Using those local water source, excess renewables, and there's ability to store it in sal…”
Marty Adams Mar 28, 2023 ▶ 8:17 Live: The most ambitious city energy transition in America
May 22, 2023 bullish
Opinion
Ramanathan: Heavy industries like steel require green hydrogen instead of direct electrification
“There are some things that you can't directly electrify, and, you know, steel, cement, there are these Hard to abate sectors, and I think that green hydrogen, we're going to need a molecule, you know, it's probably not going to be an electron, it'll be a molec…”
Shalini Ramanathan May 22, 2023 ▶ 17:56 How will we power all those green factories?
Aug 3, 2023 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2030
Green hydrogen will become cheaper than blue hydrogen by 2030
“If we scaled it up to potentially hundreds of gigawatts by the end of the decade and going further, we expect the cost of that equipment to decline by 50, 60, or 70% or so, which really drives cost reductions of Green or renewable hydrogen below the cost of pr…”
Adi Basham Aug 3, 2023 ▶ 14:56 The high stakes debate over green hydrogen
Sep 7, 2023 neutral
Insight
Scaling green hydrogen is more complex due to lack of existing infrastructure
“Well, in offshore wind, in a way, we focused on the production sites, you know, putting offshore winter ones in the water, but There is a grid system. There's an electricity market that we can plug in. So from this perspective, offshore wind was an easy one. Y…”
Jan Matthiessen Sep 7, 2023 ▶ 17:14 Inflation headwinds for offshore wind
Sep 29, 2023 positive
Opinion
Lacey: Mass industrial decarbonization requires green hydrogen
“Certainly we need hydrogen for a variety of industrial processes, and we don't get mass industrial decarbonization without some role of green hydrogen.”
Stephen Lacey Sep 29, 2023 ▶ 43:26 Why electric cars are driving the auto strikes
Oct 26, 2023 positive
Assertion Supported
Sweden's HYBRIT project successfully produces steel using 100% green hydrogen
“The hybrid project in Sweden is already making steel using a hundred percent green hydrogen. Other projects are in the works. There's about 40, a few dozen in the works.”
Maria Gallucci Oct 26, 2023 ▶ 30:33 Tackling the tough stuff: steel, cement, and chemicals
Oct 26, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
The US currently lacks commercial-scale green hydrogen production facilities
“We actually don't have capacity to do that in the U.S. Today. There's a lot of Fossil-based carbon-emitting hydrogen in the US today. I couldn't find any, like, commercial scale, like, real operation pumping out green hydrogen yet”
Julian Spector Oct 26, 2023 ▶ 15:34 Tackling the tough stuff: steel, cement, and chemicals
Nov 29, 2023 neutral
Insight
Ramanathan: IRA subsidizes hydrogen supply without creating demand or penalizing gray hydrogen
“One of the challenges is that the Inflation Reduction Act is supply-side policy. It reduces the price. It doesn't create demand. It doesn't say, you know, you're going to have to pay a penalty if you continue using gray hydrogen.”
Shalini Ramanathan Nov 29, 2023 ▶ 24:07 How to triple renewables by 2030
Feb 1, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ramanathan: IRA Hydrogen Incentives Target Supply Without Stimulating Demand
“There's been a lot of hype around it, and the incentives in the Inflation Reduction Act are supply-side. They are not stimulating demand.”
Shalini Ramanathan Feb 1, 2024 ▶ 29:03 US power demand is set to boom. How will we meet it?
Mar 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Refiners Target 10% to 25% Returns on Capital Projects
“Most refining companies are looking for a 10 to 25% return on capital projects, and there aren't many incentives for them to make the extra investment for the higher-priced green hydrogen.”
Lisa Martine Jenkins Mar 22, 2024 ▶ 17:03 The Latitude: Could government rules hinder green hydrogen?
Mar 22, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Lacey: Section 45V tax credit requires regional and hourly renewable matching
“If you want to qualify for the 45 V tax credit, you need to create green hydrogen using new renewables. They need to be in the same grid region as the electrolyzers, and it needs to be time matched to when those electrolyzers are running. At first annually, an…”
Stephen Lacey Mar 22, 2024 ▶ 1:09 The Latitude: Could government rules hinder green hydrogen?
Jun 3, 2024 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Dec 2038
Orthofer: Green hydrogen cost parity delayed 5 to 8 years past 2030
“If I look back at our forecast from 20 20, for when we would achieve cost parity between green hydrogen and grey hydrogen, we said this would be by the end of this decade. I think by now we've moved that out by five to eight years, depending on geography, just…”
Anna Orthofer Jun 3, 2024 ▶ 19:01 A macro view on the state of climate tech
Jun 3, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Orthofer: Electrolyzer stack costs could fall up to 70% by 2034
“Where the electrolyzer stack can represent about currently about half of the costs that can come down a lot, right? And we see 50, 60, 70% cost down Potential over the next decade through many, through better manufacturing, through efficiency improvements and …”
Anna Orthofer Jun 3, 2024 ▶ 18:09 A macro view on the state of climate tech
Mar 12, 2025 bearish
Assertion Supported
Garabedian: Electrolyzers at $2,000/kW are unviable without massive subsidies
“Electrolyzers today in the 2000 dollars a kilowatt range, they're too expensive to produce economically viable Green hydrogen. And we're seeing this in projects all through the world. So where green hydrogen projects are being built, they're being built at pri…”
Rafi Garabedian Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 29:18 Electric Hydrogen’s bet on supersized electrolyzers
Mar 12, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Garabedian: The green hydrogen market is extremely subsidy-dependent today
“Right now, the green hydrogen or electrolytic hydrogen market is extremely subsidy dependent.”
Rafi Garabedian Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 23:31 Electric Hydrogen’s bet on supersized electrolyzers
Mar 12, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Garabedian: Electric Hydrogen cuts electrolyzer equipment costs by 50 percent
“Our technology and our product Reduces that cost by 50% and gets us into the ballpark where green hydrogen becomes economically viable with moderate subsidy and support, and once we get to scale, it'll get even better from there.”
Rafi Garabedian Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 29:52 Electric Hydrogen’s bet on supersized electrolyzers
Mar 12, 2025 bearish
Opinion
Garabedian: Siemens, ThyssenKrupp, and Cummins margin models will fail in hydrogen
“If you look at the incumbent electrolyzer producers they're the big industrials. I'm talking about companies like Siemens and ThyssenKrupp Cummins, who are not in the business of mercilessly driving cost out of their products, right? They're heavy industrial s…”
Rafi Garabedian Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 30:49 Electric Hydrogen’s bet on supersized electrolyzers
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