battery storage

8 statements across 7 episodes · 3 bullish · 4 bearish · 5 people on the record · first statement Jan 13, 2022 by Julian Spector · across every show →

Everything said about battery storage, oldest first

Jan 13, 2022 negative
Insight
Spector: Storing fossil electricity in batteries increases overall carbon intensity
“And, you know, you'll lose some of that electricity in the round trip conversions to store it and bring it out. So you're actually, like, more carbon-intensive if you're storing carbon-intensive electricity.”
Julian Spector Jan 13, 2022 ▶ 10:27 The risk of ‘unforced error’ in Hawaii’s coal transition
Jun 15, 2022 bearish
Assertion Supported
The decade-long trajectory of falling lithium-ion battery prices has halted
“For many years over the last decade or so, there'd been this perception that lithium ion batteries, they just get cheaper over time. You would hear that again and again, this onward march of lower prices as the factories scale up, and that's a huge reason that…”
Julian Spector Jun 15, 2022 ▶ 7:04 The battery recycling boom
Jan 19, 2023 negative
Opinion
Shah: EV charging stations should be legally required to co-locate battery storage
“Like, we should not allow any electric vehicle charging stations to be installed without co-locating batteries at that location. It literally makes no sense, because that, that use case needs batteries to be co-located to minimize grid impacts.”
Jigar Shah Jan 19, 2023 ▶ 29:46 The make-or-break moment for America’s energy transition
Mar 28, 2023 negative
Insight
Adams: Batteries cannot sustain multi-day grid reliability without dispatchable generators
“Well, you can have enough batteries if you have enough land to do a day or so, but it's the recharging of the batteries the next day that gets you in trouble. That's the same thing the state experienced during the last heat waves the last summer. They said we …”
Marty Adams Mar 28, 2023 ▶ 9:58 Live: The most ambitious city energy transition in America
May 1, 2023 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hazlip: New York will need 20 to 40 GW of battery storage
“New York has a six gigawatt goal. You know, our modeling suggests, you know, New York will need anywhere from 20 to 40 gigawatts of just basically four hour duration batteries.”
Will Hazlip May 1, 2023 ▶ 4:51 Creating the ‘energy capitals’ of a decarbonized grid [partner content]
Jun 1, 2023 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Tomlinson: Texas energy laws will make battery storage more economical
“A lot of these laws will make that battery storage even more economical, even if it's going to hurt future wind and solar projects.”
Chris Tomlinson Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 21:02 Why Texas Republicans are trying to crush wind and solar
Jun 1, 2023
Assertion Partly supported
Tomlinson: 80 GW of battery storage is in ERCOT's interconnection queue
“You know, we've got 80 gigawatts of battery storage in the queue to interconnect into the ERCOT grid at, right now.”
Chris Tomlinson Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 20:53 Why Texas Republicans are trying to crush wind and solar
Feb 19, 2025 bullish
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Jigar Shah: Battery storage additions will be tenfold natural gas deployments
“Battery storage will be heralded as the savior of the grid a year from now, and we will deploy 10 times as much battery storage as we deploy natural gas.”
Jigar Shah Feb 19, 2025 ▶ 49:00 Open Circuit: Jigar, Katherine, and Stephen are back
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