Steve Jobs

26 statements across 7 episodes · 12 bullish · 5 bearish · 8 people on the record · first statement Sep 28, 2025 by Daniel Ek · said 303 times in 31 episodes since 2025 · across every show →

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Sep 28, 2025 negative
Disclosure
Ek: Trying to imitate Jobs, Bezos, and Gates failed for me
“I certainly tried to mimic Steve Jobs. I certainly tried to mimic Bezos and Gates, and all of the great ones you know, the very charismatic ones, like Howard Schultz of Starbucks, and, you know, I've learned from all of them, and in a way I've tried to imitate…”
Daniel Ek Sep 28, 2025 ▶ 24:59 Daniel Ek, Spotify | David Senra
Sep 28, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Senra: Iconic founders do their best work in their 40s and 50s
“If you look at all of them, Steve Jobs, Enzo Ferrari, Akio Morita, Sam Walton, Estee Lauder, Coco Chanel, Edwin Land, they do their best work when they're much older. And so I would, I thought a lot about that. I'm like, dang, this is like a reoccurring theme …”
David Senra Sep 28, 2025 ▶ 26:28 Daniel Ek, Spotify | David Senra
Sep 28, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Ek: Steve Jobs tested product ideas by calling journalists for feedback
“And I know one of the ways he did it, which was brilliant and that don't get talked about. He actually called up journalists. Sometimes, and tested ideas on them, and like, we might do this kind of thing, and then hear the journalists react to it, and it's lik…”
Daniel Ek Sep 28, 2025 ▶ 49:25 Daniel Ek, Spotify | David Senra
Jan 4, 2026 neutral
Insight
Mackey: Innovation is almost always recombining existing ideas, not inventing from scratch
“You could always, almost say nobody hardly invents anything, because they're always taking some other ideas and putting them together in interesting new combinations.”
John Mackey Jan 4, 2026 ▶ 44:46 John Mackey: The Dropout Who Changed How America Eats
Feb 1, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Iovine: Akio Morita's vertical integration at Sony inspired Steve Jobs's Apple strategy
“Marita bought Sony, bought Columbia Records, bought Columbia Pictures. He saw the distribution, the hardware, the software, he saw it all. But Steve took it, not literally, but it was part of the inspiration behind his chain of thinking, right?”
Jimmy Iovine Feb 1, 2026 ▶ 1:54:35 Jimmy Iovine: Building Interscope Records & Beats by Dre
Feb 1, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Iovine: Steve Jobs declined to co-found Beats, urging Iovine to build alone
“He said, I don't want to do headphones. You do them. So we went out to a restaurant once. I'll never forget it. We went to this Greek restaurant and this was it was after he was sick and but we went out to a restaurant and it was one of those restaurants where…”
Jimmy Iovine Feb 1, 2026 ▶ 29:12 Jimmy Iovine: Building Interscope Records & Beats by Dre
Feb 1, 2026 positive
Opinion
Iovine: Steve Jobs was the only tech executive with an artistic soul
“He gets it, you know, and most of the people I meet in that world know how to do what they're doing, but as far as the particular thing that Steve had, I haven't met another one that has that. I really, not that they're bad people or anything, they just, they…”
Jimmy Iovine Feb 1, 2026 ▶ 23:17 Jimmy Iovine: Building Interscope Records & Beats by Dre
Feb 1, 2026
Disclosure
Iovine: Helped Steve Jobs secure music licenses for Apple's iTunes
“I helped him get the licenses for iTunes.”
Jimmy Iovine Feb 1, 2026 ▶ 22:23 Jimmy Iovine: Building Interscope Records & Beats by Dre
Mar 15, 2026
Insight
Andreessen: Innovating at scale requires dual leadership or rare solo visionaries
“To get kind of the holy grail of the large scale organization that's still innovating, either you need two people involved who are able to balance each other. And by the way, you could say this is like Steve Jobs and Tim Cook, you know, would be a canonical ex…”
Marc Andreessen Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 1:30:49 Marc Andreessen: The World Is More Malleable Than You Think
Mar 15, 2026 positive
Opinion
Andreessen: Bob Noyce Was the Steve Jobs of His Era
“And so Bob Noyce was 100% the Steve Jobs of his time.”
Marc Andreessen Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 20:44 Marc Andreessen: The World Is More Malleable Than You Think
Mar 15, 2026 positive
Opinion
Andreessen: Jim Clark is an Elon Musk and Steve Jobs-level founder
“Jim's like a true, he's like an Elon, he's like a true Elon, Steve Jobs level guy. And so like incredibly creative, incredibly bright, incredibly charismatic, but like he's volatile.”
Marc Andreessen Mar 15, 2026 ▶ 49:19 Marc Andreessen: The World Is More Malleable Than You Think
Jun 7, 2026 neutral
Insight
Söderström: Functional orgs dissolve into politics without long-tenured executive trust
“The only answer I've come to as I've spoken to people there is that it actually has to do with tenure of leadership, which is one of the principles I've also tried to internalize Spotify. So they have very long tenure at the senior leadership, which means that…”
Gustav Söderström Jun 7, 2026 ▶ 11:27 The Company Apple Couldn't Kill | Spotify Co-CEO Gustav Söderström
Jun 7, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Söderström: Steve Jobs tried to kill Spotify many times
“This is the Spotify story of access versus, versus ownership, for example, which is, by the way, why I would also love Steve Jobs to be around, but also not because, you know, he tried to kill us many times.”
Gustav Söderström Jun 7, 2026 ▶ 50:54 The Company Apple Couldn't Kill | Spotify Co-CEO Gustav Söderström
Jun 14, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Steve Jobs Fired Two Pixar Board Members for Never Disagreeing
“In that 10 year period, Steve fired two members of the board of directors at Pixar. The reason he fired them was that they never disagreed, and he said, if they don't disagree with me, then they aren't bringing any value to the company.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 2:03 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Jun 14, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Steve Jobs Was Excluded From Pixar's Braintrust Due to His Overwhelming Presence
“Steve had such a powerful voice that it didn't matter when he spoke, Ed Catmull: He was going to have this extremely strong effect on the dynamics of the room, and he understood that. Ed Catmull: So, it was the reason he didn't come. Ed Catmull: I said, you…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 13:16 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Jun 14, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Catmull: Michael Eisner testified before Congress without understanding digital ripping
“Michael Eisner was testifying against without knowing what the term actually meant. So it was upsetting to Steve.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 21:51 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Jun 14, 2026 positive
Assertion Supported
Catmull: Steve Jobs acted as Pixar's outside corrective force
“We had to get another outside force, and the outside force was Steve Jobs.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 10:07 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Jun 14, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Catmull: Steve Jobs did not believe Pixar's success was solely his doing
“No. I think some people think he did, and I, that was interesting there, but no, he didn't. He was very, we talked about this. He was very clear about it. Like any project, you know, when you work on something, there are a lot of people around that are working…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 1:14:08 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Jun 14, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Steve Jobs Never Gave Film Notes That Others Had Not Already Voiced
“There was nothing that Steve ever said that had not been said by some of the, somebody else before in one of those meetings.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 14:55 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Jun 14, 2026
Insight
Leaders Must Stay Silent for the First 15 Minutes of Feedback
“There's another reason why you didn't go to the brain trust meetings, is that in order to get the dynamics right, that the people with power, either real or perceived power, need to shut the hell up for the first 10 to 15 minutes. David Senra: And he couldn't…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 12:36 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Jun 14, 2026 negative
Assertion Supported
Catmull: Jobs refused to renew Pixar deal while Eisner ran Disney
“Michael Eisner was still the CEO, and he would not have continued with Michael Eisner. So, since we were getting into the contract, he started discussions with other studios which would mean, you know, them doing the distribution.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 34:11 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Jun 14, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Bob Iger Won Steve Jobs Over by Admitting Disney's Weak Hand
“Bob Iger starts the conversation by saying, I've got a crappy hand, can we talk? And for him, it's like, that's a show of honesty that's unusual. David Senra: Usually you don't start a negotiation by saying, hey, other party, you have all the leverage here. …”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 37:11 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Jun 14, 2026 positive
Opinion
Steve Jobs Transformed His Leadership Style Between 1991 and 1995
“What people didn't understand, and I think they didn't know, was that years of 91 to 95 was when Steve made this major transformation.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 1:22:43 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Jun 14, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Steve Jobs Considered Pixar's Initial Disney Contract His Worst Deal Ever
“Steve walked away feeling like it was one of the worst deal he's ever struck.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 23:21 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Jun 14, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jobs Secretly Previewed the First iPhone While Disclosing His Terminal Cancer
“It's actually when he showed us the first iPhone when it was a secret. And we're on this bridge between the one building and there's a bridge over that goes between another tall building next to it. And the secret lab is where they're designing it. And he told…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 33:24 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Aug 9, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Ovitz consulted for Steve Jobs on Pixar during its earliest days
“I consulted for years for him on Pixar when he first had the idea, and it was some of the best times I ever had because he's whip smart, unbelievable memory, totally unstoppable with an idea,”
Michael Ovitz Aug 9, 2026 ▶ 43:48 Founder of CAA Michael Ovitz: "I Just Knew I Was Going to Outwork Every One of Them"
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