Ed Catmull

Co-Founder, Pixar · 1 appearance on the record.

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Ed Catmull is a computer scientist and co-founder of Pixar Animation Studios. He served as president of Pixar and Walt Disney Animation Studios and co-authored the book Creativity, Inc.

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19 assertions · 5 opinions · 12 insights · 1 what if · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 19 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 6 are resolved, and 13 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

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Assertion Supported
Catmull: Steve Jobs acted as Pixar's outside corrective force
“We had to get another outside force, and the outside force was Steve Jobs.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 10:07 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull

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Everything Ed Catmull said on David Senra that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Jack Welch Gutted GE and His Disciples Later Damaged Boeing
“It's split up into pieces. And it was completely fragile. Not robust because he gutted it of the future research. But the people that were there were hired and considerably valuable because they'd grown up in that system. Two of them which went on to become le…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 50:51 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
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Steve Jobs Was Excluded From Pixar's Braintrust Due to His Overwhelming Presence
“Steve had such a powerful voice that it didn't matter when he spoke, Ed Catmull: He was going to have this extremely strong effect on the dynamics of the room, and he understood that. Ed Catmull: So, it was the reason he didn't come. Ed Catmull: I said, you…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 13:16 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
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Steve Jobs Never Gave Film Notes That Others Had Not Already Voiced
“There was nothing that Steve ever said that had not been said by some of the, somebody else before in one of those meetings.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 14:55 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Opinion
Steve Jobs Transformed His Leadership Style Between 1991 and 1995
“What people didn't understand, and I think they didn't know, was that years of 91 to 95 was when Steve made this major transformation.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 1:22:43 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Opinion
Corporate Leaders Mistake Sycophancy for Insight
“Every company says they do that. Most of them are full of shit, right? They, what they've got are people around them who are telling them what the leader wants to hear. And the leader thinks, because they're hearing what they want to hear, that they've got thi…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 0:41 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
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Steve Jobs Fired Two Pixar Board Members for Never Disagreeing
“In that 10 year period, Steve fired two members of the board of directors at Pixar. The reason he fired them was that they never disagreed, and he said, if they don't disagree with me, then they aren't bringing any value to the company.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 2:03 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Insight
Catmull: Pixar's Braintrust failed as an outside force but worked for problem-solving
“Now, ah, it was to replace what Tom Schumacher was doing. It didn't work. The problem was, they weren't outside. They're in the building, they're all the time, and they're always know what's going on. Ah, so the notion of them being on the outside isn't true. …”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 9:10 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Assertion Supported
Catmull: Steve Jobs acted as Pixar's outside corrective force
“We had to get another outside force, and the outside force was Steve Jobs.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 10:07 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Insight
Leaders Must Stay Silent for the First 15 Minutes of Feedback
“There's another reason why you didn't go to the brain trust meetings, is that in order to get the dynamics right, that the people with power, either real or perceived power, need to shut the hell up for the first 10 to 15 minutes. David Senra: And he couldn't…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 12:36 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Insight
A CEO's Job Is Managing Room Dynamics, Not Making the Product
“So paying attention to the dynamics of those rooms is the job. They're the ones that are making the movies. I'm not making the movie. I'm just trying to make sure they work well together.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 19:31 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
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Catmull: Michael Eisner testified before Congress without understanding digital ripping
“Michael Eisner was testifying against without knowing what the term actually meant. So it was upsetting to Steve.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 21:51 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
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Steve Jobs Considered Pixar's Initial Disney Contract His Worst Deal Ever
“Steve walked away feeling like it was one of the worst deal he's ever struck.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 23:21 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Assertion Supported
Catmull: Jobs refused to renew Pixar deal while Eisner ran Disney
“Michael Eisner was still the CEO, and he would not have continued with Michael Eisner. So, since we were getting into the contract, he started discussions with other studios which would mean, you know, them doing the distribution.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 34:11 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
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Bob Iger Won Steve Jobs Over by Admitting Disney's Weak Hand
“Bob Iger starts the conversation by saying, I've got a crappy hand, can we talk? And for him, it's like, that's a show of honesty that's unusual. David Senra: Usually you don't start a negotiation by saying, hey, other party, you have all the leverage here. …”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 37:11 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Insight
Pixar Directors Can Make Mistakes, But Cannot Lose the Team
“The one thing that the director can't do, they can screw up in all sorts of ways, but they can't lose the team. That was our guiding line.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 44:38 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Insight
Catmull: Mission statements provide static answers when companies should ask questions
“A mission statement is an answer when typically we should always be asking questions.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 49:25 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
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Catmull: Steve Jobs did not believe Pixar's success was solely his doing
“No. I think some people think he did, and I, that was interesting there, but no, he didn't. He was very, we talked about this. He was very clear about it. Like any project, you know, when you work on something, there are a lot of people around that are working…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 1:14:08 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Insight
Discipline Individuals Directly Instead of Making Blanket Company Rules
“If somebody violates a rule of common sense, People do once in a while. You call them on the carpet, you tell them you can't do it, but you don't make a rule so that nobody else makes the same mistake. Because as soon as you make more rules, then people are wo…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 1:32:06 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Insight
Catmull: Serious creative problems require small groups rather than large meetings
“If things are going well, you like a bigger group because you're training other people to feel comfortable. In this way of working. But the problem is really serious when you go to a small group where they're for past that stuff and they can focus on the probl…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 18:29 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
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Catmull: Disney signed initial Pixar deal expecting small boutique films
“Our contract with Disney, an initial contract, was to make three movies. And at the time it was signed Disney perceived that Pixar was going to produce boutique films, their word, much as they would consider A Nightmare Before Christmas, a stop motion animated…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 22:13 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
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Jobs Secretly Previewed the First iPhone While Disclosing His Terminal Cancer
“It's actually when he showed us the first iPhone when it was a secret. And we're on this bridge between the one building and there's a bridge over that goes between another tall building next to it. And the secret lab is where they're designing it. And he told…”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 33:24 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
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Catmull: Disney never inspected Pixar's processes despite contractual rights
“That contract gave them the right To look at everything we did and all of our processes. As we started to become successful, nobody from Disney ever came and said, what are you guys doing?”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 38:11 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
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Catmull: Pixar completed 21 of 22 films started; Disney completed 10 of 11
“Before I left, we completed 21 of the 22 films we started. So, but it's just bizarre in that world, and at Disney we completed, by the time I left, 10 of the 11 that we'd started.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 42:40 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull
Opinion
Catmull: Disney theme parks prevented company from being broken up
“The thing that actually, in my opinion, that kept Disney together from, kept them being broken up, was the theme parks itself.”
Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 ▶ 57:04 Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull

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Building Pixar, Working With Steve Jobs, and Cultivating Creativity | Ed Catmull Jun 14, 2026 1h 5m
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