Tobi Lütke
Co-Founder and CEO, Shopify · 1 appearance on the record.
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He co-founded Shopify in 2004 and has led it as CEO through its 2015 IPO to become one of the world’s largest e-commerce platforms. Beyond Shopify, he served on the Ruby on Rails core development team and joined Coinbase's board of directors in 2022.
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Lütke: Prime Minister Trudeau's push toward socialism inevitably leads to poverty
“It's very much veered into socialism under, under Trudeau. He pushed that very, very hard I am very much hoping that, ah, Mark is helping all of Canada to figure out that that's a successful discovery of something that doesn't work, because obviously that kind…”
Lütke: Software customer segmentation masks developer skill issues
“All these stories of software is for a certain segment of a market are skills issues, and that's exactly what they sounded like when I first heard about it. It's convenience to the company making the software to say, we are focused on one segment, and by the w…”
Lütke: Meta and Shopify created more businesses than any government policy
“I think the Meta Shopify LA group has created more businesses than like you know, any government policy in history.”
Lütke: Historically, crypto stablecoins were mostly 'gift certificates to scams'
“The utilitarian difference between a real US dollar and a US dollar crypto coin is like that the US dollar crypto coin is mostly like, it's sort of like gift certificates to scams. It's like, there's not that many things you can actually purchase with it that …”
Lütke: Coinbase endured near-unprecedented government and regulatory hostility
“And that was a company under brutal attack by the regulators in a way that, like, very few companies of all time have ever faced. That's, like, they threw, like, the government wanted them dead and pretty much said so, right?”
Lütke: Everyone should code because AI vibe coding only takes weekends
“We actually are under the opinion at this point that everyone should be able to code, at least sort of since Vibe coding is around. This is clearly, this has gone from a, you know, have to spend all of your teenage years in a dark room Cultivating a rare skill…”
Lütke: AI will solve all software technical debt
“I don't even think it's going to end up mattering because AI is going to solve all technical debt.”
Lütke: AI will not cause widespread technological unemployment
“I don't even believe in AI unemployment from, to begin with. It's not how things work. But if you were worried about it, F-One is kind of proving that we can just make up completely incredible pursuits, especially with AI and robotics, we can make it cheaper, …”
Lütke: Using third-party software forces adoption of vendor worldviews
“If you use software by others, you have to buy into their vision.”
Lütke: Internal software shapes companies faster and more effectively than policy
“It's the sort of missing ingredient people talk about, you know, people talk about incentives shaping companies, and then policies shaping companies. So, those tend to be the two tools. And I think then, sort of generally, like, if people are really insightful…”
Lütke: Outperforming products come from places that reject consensus decision-making
“It's when something outperforms, it's usually the product of a place that doesn't make decisions by consensus, right, as we know.”
Lütke: Functional org structures produce vastly better products despite executive friction
“It is significantly harder for executives. It's very unpopular for executives because obviously they just don't own, like, the entire shebang that they can, you know, make all decisions in, and that's requires a lot more collaboration, which feels strong and f…”
Lütke: Advantages of any org structure occur immediately; disadvantages emerge over time
“Well, and the advantages of any organization structure occur immediately. The disadvantages only appear over time.”
Lütke: Canada ranks top three globally in every critical manufacturing resource
“It has in the ground basically as much, like, it's number one, two, or three on every single resource that is of value in, in the in, in the next manufacturing buildup age”
Lütke: Canada could be the richest country in the world
“I think it can be richest country in the world if it chose so, and it just needs to make a decision that it wants that”
Lütke: Efficiency drives ignore crucial unquantifiable qualities like taste
“The downside of a drive to efficiency is that it requires you to act on, on, on quantifiable, right? Like, you can only measure what you can measure, or for, like, somatically. So, that's not the entire, like, the space of how to make better companies. Like, t…”
Lütke: Shop Pay delivers a 16% conversion rate increase for merchants
“It's a 16% conversion increase by it being robbed, right?”
Lütke: Tech industry is bad at partnerships due to prisoner's dilemma thinking
“Tech is extraordinarily bad at partnerships. It's and I mean, it, it's always treated as a prisoner's dilemma that at some point, someone in the company realizes defecting gives you five points on the map, and that sounds really, really good with the short-ter…”
Lütke: VCs rejected Shopify in 2008 because market friction disguised potential TAM
“The reason why you didn't invest is like you said, like there's 40,000 online stores in the world right now in 2008. And Well, you can get half of them, but that's not actually that big of a business. And what we miss is, like, well, Shopify itself was the sol…”
Lütke: Great entrepreneurs are fundamentally ungovernable
“I think great entrepreneurs are ungovernable, and it's the problems often arise when people somehow manage to figure out how to, yeah.”
Lütke: Programming is a vocational craft, not computer science
“We have significant science envy. We even attempt to call it computer science. There are some people who do computer science in the machine learning world, so that it's a real thing, but clearly that's not, It's a vocational art.”
Lütke: Teaching kids the world is built beats most school curriculums
“If you can teach that to students, it's worth more than most of the entire curriculums of subjects.”
Lütke: Ontario has the cleanest power grid in the world
“Like if it's like where I live in Ontario, it's like the grid is entirely clean. It's like the Bruce nuclear power plant, which are constantly built more reactors for, which is like, Every time under budget and before schedule, like six, seven gigawatts now, a…”
Lütke: Shopify has 20M lines of Ruby and 8-10M lines of TypeScript
“I think the sort of core part of Shopify with all the like, minor stuff like the identity system and all these kind of things is like, 20 million lines of code, and then the TypeScript written admin interface is like another, I think eight, nine, 10 every reas…”
Appearances (1)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| Tobi Lütke is still captivated by internet commerce, 20 years later | Oct 6, 2025 | 1h 9m |