why aren't all 14 resolved? a statement only gets an assessment when the public
record can support or contradict it. opinions and what-ifs never can, and 3 checkable
ones are still open, waiting for their date. predictions held up or didn't;
assertions are supported or contradicted. on every card:
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Assertion Open · timeframe Aug 2029
Wang: Voya achieves direct fully delivered cost parity with diesel
“With U.S. Scrap, you're already at diesel parity when it comes to fuel costs. Which is a critical thing for us. We're not commanding a green premium or any other sort of premium. Direct cost parity with diesel for fully delivered cost, including all the proces…”
Assertion Supported
Wang: Electrochemical aluminum conversion outperforms combustion efficiency without NOx emissions
“You can really design electrochemical systems that are incredibly cost-effective and capable, and ultimately able to convert that energy from its raw thermodynamic form in aluminum out to electricity with far higher efficiency than combustion, without any of t…”
Assertion Supported
Wang: Aluminum fuel is twice as energy-dense by volume as diesel
“In fact, is from a volume basis, about twice as energy dense as diesel on an as-converted basis. So come at the amount of electricity you're getting out per, you know, liter per gallon of fuel. And then even on a weight basis, you are a little bit better than …”
Assertion Supported
Wang: Voya achieves 100 MW per acre, quadrupling diesel density
“Per in terms of megawatts per acre, the power density, how much power you can pack in per acre, we are approximately a hundred megawatts per acre in our high density configuration, which is about four times higher than a diesel generator installation”
Assertion Open · timeframe Aug 2029
Wang: Voya cuts front-line fuel shipping volume by roughly 70%
“And then in terms of fuel logistics, especially for the military use cases where they're using the fuel so inefficiently, we have a substantial energy density benefit, about 20 to 30% Less mass and about 70% less volume shipped to the front lines for a typical…”
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wang: Impurities in low-grade aluminum scrap improve Voya's electrolyte stability
“We just had a nice breakthrough a couple days ago, I don't think you've heard about this yet, where some of the common impurities found in the lowest grades of scrap actually have a significant beneficial impact on the stability of our electrolyte.”
Assertion Supported
Wang: Equivalent battery backup requires over 10x the footprint of diesel
“Like, any kind of battery configuration with the same kind of duration, you're talking about more than 10 times the footprint, whether lithium ion or otherwise.”
Assertion Supported
Wang: Diesel generators produce dirty power needing extra buffering for GPUs
“The power quality coming out of a diesel generator tends to be very dirty in terms of the voltage waveforms for your AC. And if you have spiky loads, it tends not to respond very well, so you have a lot of voltage sag or over voltage. So all that is very chall…”
Assertion Open · timeframe Aug 2029
Wang: Voya starts instantly unlike diesel's 5-10 second cold start
“Basically instant cold start, just like a battery, whereas a diesel generator often will take five to 10 seconds to get to Full power from a cold start”
Assertion Supported
Wang: Battery and EV innovations make metal fuel systems cost-competitive
“Things like just basic breakthroughs in power electronics with Tesla and with battery energy systems all driving power electronics and inverters to record low cost levels now makes a system like this very affordable, whereas 10 years ago it would have been muc…”
Assertion Partly supported
Wang: Nearly every US aluminum smelter has shut down
“And in the U.S. In particular, almost every single aluminum smelter has shut down. There's, I think, maybe only one left operational in the U.S. These days.”
Assertion Partly supported
Wang: Global diesel generator and fuel market is $30B to $40B annually
“So we're looking at, if you combine, ah, generator markets as well as the diesel fuel that is burned by the diesel generators, something like, ah, 30 to forty billion dollars a year, ah, globally.”
Assertion Supported
Wang: Diesel generator hardware costs $500 to $800 per kilowatt
“Diesel generators are on the order of hardware alone, five to 800 dollars per kilowatt. Even the more expensive emissions controlled ones are about a thousand dollars per kilowatt.”
Assertion Supported
Wang: Backup diesel requires constant fuel polishing and replacement
“The diesel fuel itself, you know, it's reasonably stable, but in fact, every few months, you have to go in and polish the fuel, basically because the fuel will attract moisture from the atmosphere, it can start growing algae, it can go bad, and so you have to …”