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Opinion
Webber: Solar panels are significantly more land-efficient than corn ethanol
“If you have an acre or whatever amount of land you have and is hit with photons, you can convert those photons into a useful form of energy, say electricity, with something like 20% efficiency. But if you convert it first into bioenergy, Corn for ethanol, then…”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 9:22 The food-energy nexus
Opinion
Webber: Oil and gas conflicts risk being replaced by water wars
“But I worry that we're going to replace oil resource wars, or what we're seeing today, natural gas resource wars, with water resource wars. There have been water wars in the past. I'm worried that we'll have more water wars. That, that's something I really am …”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 37:07 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Supported
Webber: US food cold chain outspends Switzerland and Sweden's total energy
“We use more energy for our cold chain than countries like Switzerland and Sweden use combined for all purposes.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 14:59 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: Shipping wine from France to NY uses less energy than California
“Wine from France delivered by ship to New York is less energy intensive than the closer wine in California moved there by truck.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 19:01 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: Dietary choices impact the environment far more than food miles
“The transportation miles Tends to get the most attention, but actually is not as important. A great study came out of Carnegie Mellon over a decade ago, looking at sort of these food miles, and they're, the conclusion they had was that food choices, meaning th…”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 20:33 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: Multi-paddock cattle grazing can achieve net-negative carbon life cycles
“There are some analyses just actually they will be carbon negative on life cycle because what the cattle do if it's not too concentrated will improve the soil health and take CO two out of the atmosphere.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 32:37 The food-energy nexus
Insight
Webber: Cheaper energy may drive energy-intensive desalination via Jevons paradox
“The correction to that might be, if you lower the cost of energy, you might end up pursuing more energy-intensive forms of water-like desalination, so it might end up settling out at about the same price. And in fact, that's what we see in many places, is that…”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 18:36 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Insight
Webber: Energy emissions and water disruptions form an accelerating feedback loop
“Part of that is one of the deep ironies of the energy-water nexus is that the energy system helps create climate change through the radiative forcing of the emissions from the fuels we use, and the way climate change manifests itself is through changes to the …”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 27:09 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Webber: US water desperation will soon force creation of trading markets
“We're not quite at that point in the United States or elsewhere, so we haven't had the desperation, but it feels like we're knocking on the door of it, and we'll get there soon.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 35:39 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Supported
Webber: The US spends nine energy units per food unit ingested
“So the food we need to ingest in the United States is about one quad of energy a year, and we consume about a hundred quads of energy over the course of a year. One quad of that is in the food we eat, but there's another, say, nine quads of energy to grow and …”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 11:38 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: Consumers waste less meat than produce primarily because of price
“The good news of the meat world is that we tend to waste less meat because it's so expensive. We tend to waste other things that are Sort of less expensive fruits and vegetables that don't have good shelf life”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 21:19 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: Hundreds of millions of tons of manure could supply biomethane
“We have especially hundreds of millions of tons of manure that we could turn into biomethane as opposed to just leaving it as an environmental hotspot, a liability.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 27:51 The food-energy nexus
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Webber: Climate change will increase energy needed for agriculture and storage
“It looks like we'll spend more energy to overcome the consequences of climate change, to make up for the lost productivity, or to store the food and the crops.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 29:59 The food-energy nexus
Insight
Webber: Indoor farming economics work for produce, but not commodity grains
“It ends up being pretty expensive, so we wouldn't do it for the bulk commodity crops like wheat or corn, but for fruits and vegetables, that might work.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 35:44 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: US water heating uses more energy than Switzerland and Sweden combined
“That four percent of national energy consumption in water heating is bigger than what Switzerland and Sweden use for all purposes combined in a year.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 8:35 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Supported
Webber: 40% of US water withdrawals cool power plants
“And about 40% of all the water withdrawals in the United States every day are just to cool power plants.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 12:36 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Supported
Webber: Nuclear, carbon capture, and bioenergy are highly water-intensive
“Traditional nuclear, 19 seventies nuclear with big water cooling, very water intensive. Carbon capture systems are very water intensive. Bioenergy crops are very water intensive.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 28:53 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Insight
Webber: Fuel choice impacts water use more than improving heat exchangers
“But I think the primary choice is ultimately on the energy side. Fuel choice has a bigger impact than improving the heat exchangers.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 31:15 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Webber: Decarbonization will reduce water intensity by 2036 despite severe strains
“And so I think there'll be some celebration of how the process of decarbonization reduced our water intensity overall, but we're still going to have some pretty severe strains we have to deal with.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 36:41 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Supported
Webber: Dietary fats share roughly the same energy density as fossil fuels
“Material, especially like the lipids and fats are kind of the same energy density as fossil fuels, which is really incredible.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 6:40 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: Global photosynthesis averages 0.3% efficiency, peaking at 10%
“The global photosynthetic mean is like.3% efficient, and really good crops in really healthy areas, and the ecosystem might be as high as a few percent, maybe eight or 10% in some places, and this is far shy of the efficiency of like an electric motor.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 8:07 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: The US food system consumes up to 15% of national energy
“Different people do the analysis and come up with anywhere between like eight and 15% of national annual energy consumption is for the food system.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 10:46 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: Cold chain and cooking consume 40% of food system energy
“And then another, like, 40% of the food system's energy requirements, or like four percent of national energy consumption, is in the cold chain and in the cooking.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 14:27 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: Wealthy nations throw away up to 50% of edible food
“That food waste number is something like 30 to 50% of the edible food in the United States is thrown away. Typical numbers say 40%. Similar numbers in, say, the UK and other rich countries”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 15:52 The food-energy nexus
Insight
Webber: Rich nations waste food at consumption; poor nations at harvest
“Food waste happens in a different stage of the supply chain in the United States compared to, say, a poorer country. So in the United States, we have a very robust cold chain, which is good news, but that means we're wasting the food on our plate. Like, we're …”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 16:32 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: Corn-based ethanol currently displaces 10% of US gasoline consumption
“Like, there are other ways to displace 10% of our gasoline consumption, which is about where we are with corn-based ethanol.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 26:21 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: Extreme Texas heat is forcing ranchers to sell underweight cattle
“We're having massive agricultural losses in Texas right now from the heat wave and drought. They can't get the feed for the cattle, so they take cattle to market before they're at full weight, so they get less money.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 28:55 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: The Netherlands is the world's second-largest food exporter by value
“The Netherlands is, I think, the number two exporter of food by value around the world, because they grow a lot of high-value crops, flowers, and fruits and vegetables in an indoor setting.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 35:59 The food-energy nexus
Insight
Webber: Agrivoltaics create a symbiotic cooling and shading effect for crops
“That's like a whole field of agrivoltaics, where you have solar voltaics together with farming, and you get these interesting things where you're getting electricity out plus food, and the plants cool the panels, so the panels are more efficient and productive…”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 8, 2023 ▶ 37:05 The food-energy nexus
Assertion Supported
Webber: About 13% of US energy consumption goes to water and steam
“If you look at the United States as an example, we use about a hundred quads of energy, a hundred quadrillion BTU of energy. BTU is a British thermal unit of energy. About 13% of that energy is for water and steam.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 8:03 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Supported
Webber: About a third of US energy boils water in power plants
“It's like a third of our energy consumption in the United States just goes to boil water to make steam in power plants.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 9:07 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Contradicted
Webber: Coal plants now store only 15 to 30 days of coal
“And these coal plants in the old days maybe stored 60 days worth of coal on site. These days they store like 15 to 30 days.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 11:36 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Supported
Webber: Agriculture is the top net water consumer, ahead of cities and power
“If you look at consumption, how much water is consumed, agriculture is the biggest consumer, and then cities, then the power sector.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 14:04 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Insight
Webber: Energy costs make up about half of municipal water bills
“Rule of thumb is about half, depends on where you are. So your water bill depends on where you are. My water bill in Austin, Texas is about a hundred bucks a month. It's a lot cheaper in other parts of the United States because water is scarce in Texas, so it'…”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 16:54 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Supported
Webber: Water inputs cost only $0.50 to $1 per barrel of oil
“The water bill for energy is not substantial. Usually the water is cheap. So if you're producing oil and gas, the amount of extra money you pay for water, it's something you notice. It might be 50 cents a barrel or a dollar a barrel, something like that, but t…”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 17:40 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Supported
Webber: Water-scarce regions already use desalination despite high electricity costs
“We don't have to wait for the far future for desalination. It's already happening today in Israel and In parts of California, and inland Texas, and Israel, and Australia. So places that are water scarce already do some desalination. Even if the electricity is …”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 20:22 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Supported
Webber: French nuclear plants curtailed output due to drought in 2022
“You cannot get the water you need to cool your nuclear power plants in France so they are dialing back or turning off.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 24:42 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Supported
Webber: Texas 2021 storm left 14 million under boil-water notices
“And we had that in Texas where we first had a power outage, ten million people without power, but then we had fourteen million people under a boil water notification, Because the water wasn't safe to drink because the water and wastewater treatment plants didn…”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 26:50 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
Assertion Supported
Webber: US water usage and withdrawal data is released only every 5-10 years
“The water side is much less sophisticated, and the information about water quantities that are used in the United States are released every five or 10 years. Same with water withdrawals.”
Dr. Michael Webber Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 32:05 Averting water wars as we decarbonize
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