why aren't all 10 resolved? a statement only gets an assessment when the public
record can support or contradict it. opinions and what-ifs never can, and 0 checkable
ones are still open, waiting for their date. predictions held up or didn't;
assertions are supported or contradicted. on every card:
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Assertion Supported
Schroeder: EVs have fewer fires per vehicle than ICE cars
“There are still a lot fewer of them on a per EV basis than there are internal combustion engine vehicle fires on a per ICE basis.”
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: Flow batteries match lithium-ion costs at 8 to 10 hours
“And usually you get something that looks like lithium ion cost when you're getting around eight to 10 hours.”
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: EVs reduce lifecycle emissions even factoring in battery manufacturing
“You know, the first proposition is we need to get EV adoption up because it does actually reduce greenhouse gas emissions, even if you consider the energy that's embedded in production of the battery itself.”
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: Flow batteries typically have around 65% AC round-trip efficiency
“Generally, they have round trip AC to AC efficiency in the 65% range, which I don't know if that sounds good or bad to you.”
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: Thermal storage cost crosses lithium-ion at 8 to 10 hours
“And unfortunately, at least from what I've seen, round trip efficiency kind of looks like flow battery round trip efficiency. And, you know, where the crossover with lithium ion costs, you know, in that eight to 10 hour range, Kind of looks similar too.”
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: Global EV market share doubled in 2021 to around 9%
“Market share globally for EVs doubled last year. It's up to around nine percent”
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: Batteries charging at 10C in six minutes already exist
“You can get batteries that, that can charge at 10 C or even faster. So 10 C would be 10 times its full capacity in an hour. So that would be, you know, a six minute zero to a hundred percent state of charge.”
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: Cathodes represent the single largest expense in batteries
“So cost reductions, the cat, the cathode is the biggest single expense in the battery, so dropping its cost is, is meaningful.”
Assertion Contradicted
Schroeder: California Installed Its First Large Eight-Hour Lithium-Ion System
“Though I noticed just this week, California installed its first large eight-hour lithium-ion system.”
Assertion Supported
Schroeder: Power tool batteries still cost roughly $1,000 per kWh at retail
“Power tool batteries are still at retail about a thousand dollars a kilowatt hour, right? And people are happy to pay it. Maybe not happy, but they do pay it.”