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Assertion Supported
Brown: VPPs cost 60% of natural gas peakers or less
“We believe that a VPP similar capacity resource would be 60% of the cost of a natural gas peaker investment. And honestly, that's probably outdated because now we know that natural building natural gas peakers are even more expensive.”
Ben Brown May 6, 2025 ▶ 15:56 Frontier Forum: Unlocking next-generation VPPs
Assertion Partly supported
Brown: VPPs cost 40% of utility-scale battery installations
“And it would be, and the VPP would also be 40% of the cost of a utility scale battery investment.”
Ben Brown May 6, 2025 ▶ 16:15 Frontier Forum: Unlocking next-generation VPPs
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Brown: Nearly 75% of new Nest thermostat owners opt into energy shifting
“And so we have actually seen both opt-in and engagement that we're getting nearly 75% of all new Nest thermostat customers that install a device are opting into energy shifting.”
Ben Brown May 6, 2025 ▶ 9:05 Frontier Forum: Unlocking next-generation VPPs
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Brown: Locational grid strain will favor VPPs over central power plants
“There is going to continue to be, you know, more and more of a challenge that our system tries to struggle to grow to meet that demand, not just on the aggregate basis, But really on the distribution and locational basis, and I think that's also what's very un…”
Ben Brown May 6, 2025 ▶ 3:05 Frontier Forum: Unlocking next-generation VPPs
Assertion Supported
Brown: The US has over 80M central HVAC and water heating systems
“And so to me, the idea of not incorporating what is by far kind of the largest existing set of resources In infrastructure we have in the country, which is the eighty million plus central HVAC systems and eighty million plus hot water heating systems that is e…”
Ben Brown May 6, 2025 ▶ 14:13 Frontier Forum: Unlocking next-generation VPPs
Assertion Supported
Renew Home has over 5 million households enrolled across the US
“We have over five million households that have enrolled which represents capacity resource that is shiftable across the country.”
Ben Brown May 6, 2025 ▶ 20:25 Frontier Forum: Unlocking next-generation VPPs
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Brown: Grid stress now extends far beyond traditional summer peak hours
“Those were really targeted towards, you know, peak hours of the year, right? You know, maybe 40 to 60 hours a year where we were really just dealing with a really, you know, a heat wave. Now, obviously, we're seeing one, you know, more variable weather through…”
Ben Brown May 6, 2025 ▶ 5:30 Frontier Forum: Unlocking next-generation VPPs
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