Carl Popham of Austin Energy explains that customers are far more receptive to shifting EV charging times than adjusting air conditioning temperatures during grid demand events.
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“In our pilots, we had zero opt-outs in shifting EV load, and we had the expected number of opt-outs in air conditioning load.”
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