Modon: EPCs reject better software because efficiency cuts billable hours
Alex Modon · Can AI revolutionize EPC? · Dec 11, 2025 · at 23:30
Alex Modon is the CEO of Unlimited Industries, explaining the business model incentives that prevent traditional EPC firms from modernizing their workflows.
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“There's no real incentive structure for an EPC to want better software. It's the same reason your law firm doesn't necessarily want like AI software to help them accelerate, you know, and reduce their billables.”
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