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Phillips: Duke Energy has one million field switches, mostly one-way

Stacey Phillips · Frontier Forum: How VPPs earn grid-scale trust [partner content] · Mar 10, 2026 · at 14:22

Stacey Phillips discusses Duke Energy's legacy demand-management infrastructure and pragmatic approach to grid resources.

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“People make fun of me because we have a million switches in the field. And the vast majority of them are one way.”

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