Shayle Kann (Energy Impact Partners) critiques early-stage climate tech startups that build economic models around zero-marginal-cost power assumptions.
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“We see a lot of startups who are doing something where their sort of fundamental assumption is marginal cost of energy is going towards zero, and maybe that, that could be true over a longer time horizon, but show me how you can deliver positive unit economics with electricity costs as they are today. Otherwise, I think you're sort of putting yourself in a pretty risky position.”
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