Jan 11, 2024 · 44m · catalyst

2023 climate tech venture investment trends

Kim Zou · 23m spoken Shayle Kann · 14m spoken
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In this episode of Catalyst, host Shail Khan and Sightline Climate CEO Kim Zou analyze the 2023 climate tech venture landscape, examining funding contractions, sectoral pivots toward heavy industry, and the essential shift toward project finance.

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Shayle as informed peer 6.7 Guest teaching 4.1 Guest disagreement 1.0 Shayle pushing back 1.3
05100:0015:0030:004:24–9:24 · Shayle as informed peer 6/10 Macro Trends: Dollar Contraction Versus Resilient Deal Volume Shayle demonstrates solid market familiarity by distinguishing deal count from dollar volume and noting how hardware mega-rounds distort data. Kim shares Sightline's latest macro statistics and PitchBook comparison benchmarks.9:27–14:02 · Shayle as informed peer 7/10 Stage Dynamics: Series A Pressures and Bridge Financing Kim reveals that Series A investment dropped 41% for the first time, while Shayle supplements with on-the-ground VC experience regarding resized rounds and unannounced bridge financing.14:02–22:00 · Shayle as informed peer 7/10 Sector Shifts: Industrial Decarbonization Outpaces Food Systems Kim explains the collapse of food and land use investment and the rise of industrial decarbonization. Shayle contextualizes the H2 Green Steel mega-deal and traditional software investors misapplying SaaS multiples to carbon accounting.22:04–30:28 · Shayle as informed peer 7/10 Sponsor Segment: Bloom Energy, Engie, and Energy Hub Following the sponsor break, Kim outlines the 50% drop in exits and SPAC fallout. Shayle offers detailed historical context on Proterra's revenue reality versus 40 pre-revenue climate SPACs.30:28–37:12 · Shayle as informed peer 8/10 Capital Misallocation and Investor Ecosystem Evolution Kim shares emissions versus funding ratios showing transportation overfunded relative to industry and energy. Shayle strongly elaborates on generalist investor misconceptions regarding electricity versus total primary energy demand.37:12–42:02 · Shayle as informed peer 7/10 Regional Clustering: United States and European Hubs Kim explains geographic clustering across the US and Europe. Shayle accurately predicts the emergence of Texas and Houston as industrial decarbonization and molecule hubs.42:02–44:12 · Shayle as informed peer 5/10 2024 Outlook: Capital Stack Sophistication and Project Finance Kim provides an upbeat forward-looking outlook for 2024 centered on capital stack diversification and project finance graduation, with Shayle wrapping up collaboratively.4:24–9:24 · Guest teaching 4/10 Macro Trends: Dollar Contraction Versus Resilient Deal Volume Shayle demonstrates solid market familiarity by distinguishing deal count from dollar volume and noting how hardware mega-rounds distort data. Kim shares Sightline's latest macro statistics and PitchBook comparison benchmarks.9:27–14:02 · Guest teaching 5/10 Stage Dynamics: Series A Pressures and Bridge Financing Kim reveals that Series A investment dropped 41% for the first time, while Shayle supplements with on-the-ground VC experience regarding resized rounds and unannounced bridge financing.14:02–22:00 · Guest teaching 5/10 Sector Shifts: Industrial Decarbonization Outpaces Food Systems Kim explains the collapse of food and land use investment and the rise of industrial decarbonization. Shayle contextualizes the H2 Green Steel mega-deal and traditional software investors misapplying SaaS multiples to carbon accounting.22:04–30:28 · Guest teaching 4/10 Sponsor Segment: Bloom Energy, Engie, and Energy Hub Following the sponsor break, Kim outlines the 50% drop in exits and SPAC fallout. Shayle offers detailed historical context on Proterra's revenue reality versus 40 pre-revenue climate SPACs.30:28–37:12 · Guest teaching 4/10 Capital Misallocation and Investor Ecosystem Evolution Kim shares emissions versus funding ratios showing transportation overfunded relative to industry and energy. Shayle strongly elaborates on generalist investor misconceptions regarding electricity versus total primary energy demand.37:12–42:02 · Guest teaching 4/10 Regional Clustering: United States and European Hubs Kim explains geographic clustering across the US and Europe. Shayle accurately predicts the emergence of Texas and Houston as industrial decarbonization and molecule hubs.42:02–44:12 · Guest teaching 3/10 2024 Outlook: Capital Stack Sophistication and Project Finance Kim provides an upbeat forward-looking outlook for 2024 centered on capital stack diversification and project finance graduation, with Shayle wrapping up collaboratively.4:24–9:24 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Macro Trends: Dollar Contraction Versus Resilient Deal Volume Shayle demonstrates solid market familiarity by distinguishing deal count from dollar volume and noting how hardware mega-rounds distort data. Kim shares Sightline's latest macro statistics and PitchBook comparison benchmarks.9:27–14:02 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Stage Dynamics: Series A Pressures and Bridge Financing Kim reveals that Series A investment dropped 41% for the first time, while Shayle supplements with on-the-ground VC experience regarding resized rounds and unannounced bridge financing.14:02–22:00 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Sector Shifts: Industrial Decarbonization Outpaces Food Systems Kim explains the collapse of food and land use investment and the rise of industrial decarbonization. Shayle contextualizes the H2 Green Steel mega-deal and traditional software investors misapplying SaaS multiples to carbon accounting.22:04–30:28 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Sponsor Segment: Bloom Energy, Engie, and Energy Hub Following the sponsor break, Kim outlines the 50% drop in exits and SPAC fallout. Shayle offers detailed historical context on Proterra's revenue reality versus 40 pre-revenue climate SPACs.30:28–37:12 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Capital Misallocation and Investor Ecosystem Evolution Kim shares emissions versus funding ratios showing transportation overfunded relative to industry and energy. Shayle strongly elaborates on generalist investor misconceptions regarding electricity versus total primary energy demand.37:12–42:02 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Regional Clustering: United States and European Hubs Kim explains geographic clustering across the US and Europe. Shayle accurately predicts the emergence of Texas and Houston as industrial decarbonization and molecule hubs.42:02–44:12 · Guest disagreement 1/10 2024 Outlook: Capital Stack Sophistication and Project Finance Kim provides an upbeat forward-looking outlook for 2024 centered on capital stack diversification and project finance graduation, with Shayle wrapping up collaboratively.4:24–9:24 · Shayle pushing back 1/10 Macro Trends: Dollar Contraction Versus Resilient Deal Volume Shayle demonstrates solid market familiarity by distinguishing deal count from dollar volume and noting how hardware mega-rounds distort data. Kim shares Sightline's latest macro statistics and PitchBook comparison benchmarks.9:27–14:02 · Shayle pushing back 2/10 Stage Dynamics: Series A Pressures and Bridge Financing Kim reveals that Series A investment dropped 41% for the first time, while Shayle supplements with on-the-ground VC experience regarding resized rounds and unannounced bridge financing.14:02–22:00 · Shayle pushing back 1/10 Sector Shifts: Industrial Decarbonization Outpaces Food Systems Kim explains the collapse of food and land use investment and the rise of industrial decarbonization. Shayle contextualizes the H2 Green Steel mega-deal and traditional software investors misapplying SaaS multiples to carbon accounting.22:04–30:28 · Shayle pushing back 1/10 Sponsor Segment: Bloom Energy, Engie, and Energy Hub Following the sponsor break, Kim outlines the 50% drop in exits and SPAC fallout. Shayle offers detailed historical context on Proterra's revenue reality versus 40 pre-revenue climate SPACs.30:28–37:12 · Shayle pushing back 2/10 Capital Misallocation and Investor Ecosystem Evolution Kim shares emissions versus funding ratios showing transportation overfunded relative to industry and energy. Shayle strongly elaborates on generalist investor misconceptions regarding electricity versus total primary energy demand.37:12–42:02 · Shayle pushing back 1/10 Regional Clustering: United States and European Hubs Kim explains geographic clustering across the US and Europe. Shayle accurately predicts the emergence of Texas and Houston as industrial decarbonization and molecule hubs.42:02–44:12 · Shayle pushing back 1/10 2024 Outlook: Capital Stack Sophistication and Project Finance Kim provides an upbeat forward-looking outlook for 2024 centered on capital stack diversification and project finance graduation, with Shayle wrapping up collaboratively.

speaking balance: gold is Shayle, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Shayle 31.9% · guest 68.1%0:00 · Shayle 31.9% · guest 68.1%3:00 · Shayle 54.4% · guest 45.6%3:00 · Shayle 54.4% · guest 45.6%6:00 · Shayle 52.6% · guest 47.4%6:00 · Shayle 52.6% · guest 47.4%9:00 · Shayle 64.5% · guest 35.5%9:00 · Shayle 64.5% · guest 35.5%12:00 · Shayle 37.2% · guest 62.8%12:00 · Shayle 37.2% · guest 62.8%15:00 · Shayle 33.6% · guest 66.4%15:00 · Shayle 33.6% · guest 66.4%18:00 · Shayle 31.6% · guest 68.4%18:00 · Shayle 31.6% · guest 68.4%21:00 · Shayle 0% · guest 100%21:00 · Shayle 0% · guest 100%24:00 · Shayle 27.5% · guest 72.5%24:00 · Shayle 27.5% · guest 72.5%27:00 · Shayle 40.1% · guest 59.9%27:00 · Shayle 40.1% · guest 59.9%30:00 · Shayle 21% · guest 79%30:00 · Shayle 21% · guest 79%33:00 · Shayle 44.7% · guest 55.3%33:00 · Shayle 44.7% · guest 55.3%36:00 · Shayle 21.5% · guest 78.5%36:00 · Shayle 21.5% · guest 78.5%39:00 · Shayle 41.5% · guest 58.5%39:00 · Shayle 41.5% · guest 58.5%42:00 · Shayle 34.6% · guest 65.4%42:00 · Shayle 34.6% · guest 65.4%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 8:17 Reframing venture capital success metrics

Kim gently counters conventional venture assumptions by arguing that sheer dollar volume growth should not be the benchmark of success in climate hardware.

Hardest push from Shayle ▶ 33:52 Challenging newcomer views on energy decarbonization

Shayle forcefully pushes back against the investor trope that clean energy is largely solved, pointing out that electricity is only 20 percent of final energy use.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 10:05 Unveiling Series A 41 percent plunge

Kim presents novel Sightline data showing early-stage Series A funding dropped by 41 percent for the first time in four years.

Shayle holds their own ▶ 28:28 Detailed analysis of climate SPAC cohort track record

Shayle demonstrates deep market tracking by comparing Proterra's real revenue operations against forty speculative, pre-revenue climate SPACs.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicShayle as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementShayle pushing backWhy
Macro Trends: Dollar Contraction Versus Resilient Deal Volume 6411 Shayle demonstrates solid market familiarity by distinguishing deal count from dollar volume and noting how hardware mega-rounds distort data. Kim shares Sightline's latest macro statistics and PitchBook comparison benchmarks.
Stage Dynamics: Series A Pressures and Bridge Financing 7512 Kim reveals that Series A investment dropped 41% for the first time, while Shayle supplements with on-the-ground VC experience regarding resized rounds and unannounced bridge financing.
Sector Shifts: Industrial Decarbonization Outpaces Food Systems 7511 Kim explains the collapse of food and land use investment and the rise of industrial decarbonization. Shayle contextualizes the H2 Green Steel mega-deal and traditional software investors misapplying SaaS multiples to carbon accounting.
Sponsor Segment: Bloom Energy, Engie, and Energy Hub 7411 Following the sponsor break, Kim outlines the 50% drop in exits and SPAC fallout. Shayle offers detailed historical context on Proterra's revenue reality versus 40 pre-revenue climate SPACs.
Capital Misallocation and Investor Ecosystem Evolution 8412 Kim shares emissions versus funding ratios showing transportation overfunded relative to industry and energy. Shayle strongly elaborates on generalist investor misconceptions regarding electricity versus total primary energy demand.
Regional Clustering: United States and European Hubs 7411 Kim explains geographic clustering across the US and Europe. Shayle accurately predicts the emergence of Texas and Houston as industrial decarbonization and molecule hubs.
2024 Outlook: Capital Stack Sophistication and Project Finance 5311 Kim provides an upbeat forward-looking outlook for 2024 centered on capital stack diversification and project finance graduation, with Shayle wrapping up collaboratively.

Statements from this episode (13)

Assertion Supported
Zou: Climate tech venture funding fell 30% to $32B in 2023
“Thirty-two billion dollars in venture and growth funding globally in climate tech, which was a 30% decline from the prior year.”
Kim Zou Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 4:52
Assertion Supported
Zou: Climate tech deal count fell only 3% in 2023
“Deal activity was only down three percent, so you could call that even a tapering relative to twenty-twenty-two rather than a significant decline, so Deals are still getting done. Early stage seed series A still getting done, but that absolute dollar amount th…”
Kim Zou Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 6:43
Insight
Zou: Climate tech success is graduating to project finance, not mega-rounds
“Specific to climate tech, it might not make sense to define success as an absolute dollar in venture investment, because at the end of the day, when we think about all this hardware and, you know, hard tech that needs to develop into projects, you want these c…”
Kim Zou Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 8:21
Assertion Supported
Zou: Series A climate investment dropped 41% in 2023
“Series A investment was down 41% compared to twenty-twenty-two. That's the first time we've seen series A investment drop since we started tracking the space, you know, four years ago.”
Kim Zou Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 10:33
Assertion Supported
Zou: Food and land use climate investment fell 55% in 2023
“This time around, in 23, appetite for food and land use evaporated. There is a distaste for food and land use, in other words, and we saw that That sector was down 55% in investment to three billion this year.”
Kim Zou Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 15:31
Assertion Supported
Zou: Industry replaced food and land use as third-largest climate tech vertical
“So before this year, industry actually grew a significant amount. That one has always been underfunded relative to the level of emissions coming from that sector, and it replaced food and land use in that third vertical spot.”
Kim Zou Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 17:04
Assertion Supported
Zou: Six of top ten climate mega-deals leveraged major public financing
“The second major thing we're noticing across these mega deals is if you look at the funding they've raised in the last two years, I think six out of 10 had raised significant hundreds of millions of dollars of public financing or government-funded rounds, whet…”
Kim Zou Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 19:30
Opinion
Zou: Carbon accounting is oversaturated and behaves more like consulting than SaaS
“Carbon accounting isn't necessarily a market that needs 200 or 300 players. And also I think a lot of them end up being a bit more consulting advisory based than traditional enterprise SaaS like generalist investors understood.”
Kim Zou Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 21:14
Assertion Partly supported
Zou: Climate tech exits dropped 50% in 2023 as SPACs fell 80%
“It cut in half, so we tracked 50% less exits in twenty-twenty-three, and this was really driven by SPACs finally fizzing out. I think we started to see that happen towards the beginning of twenty-twenty-two but the count of SPACs were, climate tech SPACs were …”
Kim Zou Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 24:54
Assertion Supported
Kim Zou: Oxy's $1B Carbon Engineering buyout is the first DAC unicorn
“On the acquisition side, I think the one that Climatech investors and founders couldn't stop talking about this year was Oxy's acquisition of carbon engineering at a billion dollars, so the first unicorn we've ever seen in DAC and probably carbon removal.”
Kim Zou Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 26:12
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Khan: Most of the 40 climate SPACs were pre-revenue without commercial products
“I tracked at some point, I don't remember exactly what the number was, but like close to 40 companies that I would call climate tech companies that, that successfully merged with SPACs and de-SPACs became public companies. Most of them were pre-revenue and had…”
Shayle Kann Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 28:36
Assertion Partly supported
Zou: Transportation gets 30% of climate VC despite causing 15% of emissions
“We've tracked transportation accounting for 15% of total emissions. As per the IPCC 2019 report, but receiving 30% of venture and growth investment since 2020. Whereas on the other hand, you know, energy deals, or energy investment made up 22% of overall fundi…”
Kim Zou Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 31:43
Prediction Not publicly verifiable
Khan: Texas climate tech investment will rise over the next two years
“Be interesting to speculate a little bit on this one, like one region that has not seen nearly as much investment historically, but I would place a bet is going to show up on your rankings at least higher the next couple of years is Texas.”
Shayle Kann Jan 11, 2024 ▶ 39:45
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