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Stavros: C.H.I. Employee Ownership Paid $175K Average, Up to $1M
“So the end payouts ended up being 175,000 on average, and we had hourly workers and truck drivers make almost a million dollars.”
Pete Stavros Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 26:20 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Private Equity Deals Podcast
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Rubenstein: Blackstone, Carlyle, KKR, Apollo make 95% of profits in developed markets
“In the end, if you look at the large firms that we're now talking about, and I'll use the four big ones, Blackstone, Carlyle, KKR, and Apollo. They make 95% of their money in the developed markets. I'm counting China and India, I suppose, is developed for this…”
David Rubenstein Jul 12, 2021 ▶ 31:13 Private Equity Masters 4: David Rubenstein – Carlyle Group (Capital Allocators, EP.203)
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Mogelof: Evergreen Wealth Products Hold Identical Investments to Drawdown Vehicles
“All of our evergreen investment solutions have the same investments that you would find in our drawdown vehicles, and that's a really important differentiator.”
Eric Mogelof May 19, 2025 ▶ 25:10 Eric Mogelof – KKR's Pivot to Private Wealth (Private Wealth 3, EP.446)
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Mogelof: KKR Public Stock Is Not Pure-Play Private Markets Exposure
“Anyone could buy our stock, which is certainly one way to get exposure to some of these investments. But if you think about it, the investment in KKR stock trades at a multiple to earnings and reflects the number of things that we do here at KKR, which include…”
Eric Mogelof May 19, 2025 ▶ 40:34 Eric Mogelof – KKR's Pivot to Private Wealth (Private Wealth 3, EP.446)
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Stavros: C.H.I. EBITDA Grew Organically from $60M to $130M
“We went from 60 of EBITDA in 1516 was great, 17 was great, 18 was great, 19 was great. We were, I don't know, 130 of EBITDA from 60. All organic, no acquisitions.”
Pete Stavros Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 22:53 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Private Equity Deals Podcast
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Stavros: 600 C.H.I. employees received a 3.5% option pool
“I think it was three and a half percent of the company in options. Of the 800 folks, maybe the top 200 got outright grants, made meaningful investments in the company, and were traditional management equity plan participants, as you would normally think of it.…”
Pete Stavros Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 31:05 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Private Equity Deals Podcast
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Stavros: C.H.I. Grew Revenue 120% While Scrap Rose Only 7%
“Revenue was up a 120%. You took all this market share, lead time advantage versus the competition gapped out massively. Despite the 120% revenue growth, scrap only grew seven percent.”
Pete Stavros Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 41:20 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Private Equity Deals Podcast
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KKR has 25 active broad-based employee ownership programs across US portfolio
“We started that about 12 years ago. Extended that across our entire industrials portfolio over a period of time, so we've done it maybe 12 times with manufacturing businesses, and then in total today have 25 live cases of this across all of our different verti…”
Pete Stavros Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 35:30 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Private Equity Deals Podcast
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Stavros: KKR Bought C.H.I. at 13x and Exited at 14x EBITDA
“I think we paid 13 times on entry and on exit 14 times or something. There was not a huge uplift in multiple.”
Pete Stavros Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 24:39 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Private Equity Deals Podcast
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Rubenstein: Blackstone, KKR, and Apollo lacked global footprints when Carlyle expanded
“Blackstone, KKR, and Apollo really hadn't built international businesses, honestly, at that time, as we were beginning to do it.”
David Rubenstein Jul 12, 2021 ▶ 22:40 Private Equity Masters 4: David Rubenstein – Carlyle Group (Capital Allocators, EP.203)
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Ted Seides: KKR Built a 250-Person Private Wealth Team
“So KKR went from no one in private wealth to a team of 250 reps.”
Ted Seides Dec 22, 2025 ▶ 29:49 Year in Review 2025 (EP.478)
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Mogelof: Modern Fund Vehicles Expand Access Down to Non-Accredited Investors
“Through whether it's an interval fund, a tender offer fund, a non-traded BDC, an operating company, there are now a number of new vehicles that asset managers can utilize, which really widen the aperture for investors to invest. And that includes not just qual…”
Eric Mogelof May 19, 2025 ▶ 23:56 Eric Mogelof – KKR's Pivot to Private Wealth (Private Wealth 3, EP.446)
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Blackstone, Blue Owl, KKR, and Apollo have hundreds serving wealth
“Blackstone has a team of hundreds of people. Blue Owl, hundreds of people, KKR, Apollo, hundreds of people to serve the Wealth Channel.”
Michael Sidgmore May 5, 2025 ▶ 20:37 Michael Sidgmore – Alternatives Go Mainstream (Private Wealth 1, EP.443)
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Hillman Company anchored Kleiner Perkins Fund 1 and KKR Fund 1
“The 19 seventies venture finally began to take form, and Henry Hillman and my father were anchor investors in Kleiner Perkins Fund One, and a few years later in KKR Fund One.”
Ed Grefenstette Mar 24, 2025 ▶ 8:36 Ed Grefenstette – Bold Allocations at The Dietrich Foundation (EP.437)
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Bain, KKR, Merrill Lynch, and Frist Family Backed HCA Equity
“It was Bain Capital, KKR, Merrill Lynch, and the Frist family speaking for the equity, but then we also needed to figure out how do we fill out north of twenty billion dollars worth of debt that was going to need to be underwritten for this transaction.”
Chris Gordon Aug 28, 2023 ▶ 18:12 Classic Deal: HCA – Chris Gordon, Bain Capital (EP.335)
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Brown: Top PE firms like KKR and Apollo are tokenizing fund interests
“We're also seeing firms, and most recently KKR just announced this. Apollo also announced one. Hamilton Lane as well. They are tokenizing interests of their funds and putting them on the blockchain.”
Matt Brown Sep 26, 2022 ▶ 26:50 Matt Brown – Tidal Wave of Capital for Alternatives from Retail (Capital Allocators, EP.272)
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Stavros: C.H.I.'s OSHA recordable incident rate was 14 per 100 workers
“The injury recordable incident rate, which is OSHA's key metric of safety, was 14 at the time, so what that means is for every hundred people in the plant, how many people per year were getting hurt? It was 14 out of a hundred per year.”
Pete Stavros Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 16:16 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Private Equity Deals Podcast
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Stavros: Nucor plant workers made roughly $35k in profit sharing last year
“If you look at their financials, I think their manufacturing plant employees made last year on top of their wages, like 35,000 dollars in profit sharing, a lot of money.”
Pete Stavros Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 32:12 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Private Equity Deals Podcast
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Stavros: C.H.I. Frontline Workers Received $9,000 in Interim Dividends
“Over the years, we paid four dividends. Those dividends amounted to about 9000 dollars per employee.”
Pete Stavros Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 27:32 SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: Private Equity Deals Podcast
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Forman: Total crypto market cap was around $10 billion in 2016
“The entire crypto market cap was maybe ten billion, so less than one 100th of the size that it is today.”
Ben Forman Jun 20, 2022 ▶ 13:30 Ben Forman – Opportunities in DeFi (EP.256, Crypto for Institutions 2, EP.03)
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