Michael Batnick

Managing Partner, Ritholtz Wealth Management · 1 appearance on the record.

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Michael Batnick is a Managing Partner at registered investment adviser firm Ritholtz Wealth Management, where he serves on the investment committee developing risk management and portfolio strategies. He is the author of Big Mistakes: The Best Investors and Their Worst Investments, runs The Irrelevant Investor, and co-hosts several financial podcasts.

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Assertion Supported
Batnick: Jack Bogle Once Started an Unsuccessful Technical Analysis Fund
“It was in, ah, maybe Clash of the Culture is one of his books, where he spoke about, he started a fund based on technical analysis, and obviously, ah, it didn't do so well.”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 17:06 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)

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Everything Michael Batnick said on Capital Allocators that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Batnick: Predatory life insurance sales harm clients more than bad stock picks
“If you're selling somebody, you know, a shitty stock or mutual fund, whatever, they're giving you know, 10 grand. And sure, that sucks to lose that, but when you're selling life insurance policies to somebody, and you're asking for giant commissions premiums, …”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 10:33 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Insight
Batnick: Even the best analysts face limits with value investing
“You could be the best business analyst in the world, and you might have a great long-term track record and things might be okay, but there are limits to value investing, obviously.”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 13:02 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Insight
Investment backtests are bullshit because nobody publishes the failing ones
“Because when you show, you know, the back tests, which I think are, you know, back tests are bullshit. This looks amazing, of course. We're not, nobody's going to implement a strategy with a bad back test.”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 27:01 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Insight
Batnick: Momentum and Trend-Following Can Never Be Arbitraged Away
“Rising prices attract buyers and falling prices attract sellers. And it is literally that simple. And I don't care how many computers or geniuses get involved. That alone can never be arbed away.”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 27:46 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Assertion Supported
Batnick: Jack Bogle Once Started an Unsuccessful Technical Analysis Fund
“It was in, ah, maybe Clash of the Culture is one of his books, where he spoke about, he started a fund based on technical analysis, and obviously, ah, it didn't do so well.”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 17:06 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Insight
Batnick: Legendary investment mistakes stem from emotion, not valuation errors
“But one common theme that we all make mistakes on is the emotional side. Like none of these mistakes were because somebody used too aggressive of a growth assumption or an inappropriate discount rate or didn't understand the business. It was always like either…”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 19:45 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Opinion
Batnick: Keynes wrote the best chapter on investing in history
“And he wrote, in my opinion, the best chapter ever on investing. I don't know if it's 11 or 12 in general theory, but everything that you hear from Howard Marks and all these guys really started with Keynes in this chapter.”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 20:46 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Assertion Supported
Batnick: Charlie Munger's 1973-74 Losses Stemmed from Concentration, Not Mistakes
“He got crushed in the 73, 74 bear market like everybody else did. And I guess you can nitpick because he was so heavily concentrated in this company, blue chip stamps in particular, but you're right. He didn't make any mistakes. He, you know, he lost money whe…”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 22:15 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Insight
Batnick: Hindsight '$10K invested' charts ignore the emotional pain of holding
“I think that looking at the growth of a dollar, you know, a lot gets lost in the charts, the emotions of it and what it took to hold on. I just think that like people that are, oh, if I should have bought Amazon, I knew it. No, you didn't. If you did, you woul…”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 31:13 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Assertion Supported
Batnick: Benjamin Graham beat the market by almost 2% annually
“Now, he did beat the market by almost two percent a year for a decent amount of time, so they were very good.”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 13:15 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Insight
Batnick: Jesse Livermore repeatedly failed to follow his own trading rules
“The irony is that he couldn't even follow his own rules. And he made and lost several fortunes. And every single time he came away with this soliloquy and these beautiful words and Every time he just couldn't do it.”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 15:39 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Insight
Batnick: Stock investing obscures embedded expectations unlike sports betting
“And that's the hard part about investing is that, like, if you want to bet on the Golden State Warriors, well, you're not going to get very good odds, right? Because everyone knows they're going to win. Same thing with horses. But when you're buying a stock, y…”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 21:14 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Assertion Supported
Batnick: T-Bills Had a 50-Year Period of Negative Real Returns
“And if you don't like it by T-bills and if you know, and even that comes with a lot of pain, I think they went 50 years with negative real returns.”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 22:51 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Assertion Supported
Batnick: Chris Sacca Passed on Airbnb, Snapchat, and Dropbox
“But he actually said no to three of the best potential investing opportunities. I think it was Airbnb, Snapchat, and Dropbox. It's not like they came to him. He looked at them and said, nah, no, no, no.”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 23:44 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Assertion Supported
Batnick: Wellington Fund Collapsed to Lowest Decile Under Boston Managers
“And they brought in a group of young managers from Boston and basically blew the fund up, and they went from, you know, top decile to lower, to lowest decile, and this is a true story.”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 16:56 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Insight
Batnick: Regret Over Timing Errors Is Poisonous to Investors
“I think probably regret is one of the most poisonous things that enters into investors' brains, either selling too soon or buying too early. And the problem is that those moments stay with you, right? And you always remember what happened last time, even if it…”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 23:11 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)
Assertion Supported
Batnick: Only one of four Ritholtz partners is a full-time advisor
“And I think we're unique in the sense that of the four partners of the firm, only one is a full-time financial advisor.”
Michael Batnick Oct 8, 2018 ▶ 28:29 Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71)

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Michael Batnick - The Best Investors and Their Biggest Mistakes (Capital Allocators, EP.71 Oct 8, 2018 20m
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