William and Flora Hewlett Foundation

also referred to as: the william and flora hewlett foundation

29 statements across 5 episodes · 5 bullish · 3 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Aug 6, 2018 by Roz Hewsenian · said 33 times in 16 episodes since 2018 · across every show →

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Everything said about William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, oldest first

Aug 6, 2018
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Helmsley holds higher safe asset allocations than peer foundations like Hewlett
“Robert Wood Johnson, Hewlett Packard, if you look at what their allocations are for the equivalent of our safe assets category, it's more in the 10 to 12% range. We're higher, but we've been far more selective in the private capital range and more concentrated…”
Roz Hewsenian Aug 6, 2018 ▶ 47:45 Roz Hewsenian –Helmsley Trust's Chief of People and Process (Capital Allocators, EP.63)
Oct 21, 2019 neutral
Insight
Marshall: Investment teams must mix perspectives to avoid institutionalizing bias
“So you do have to have various points of view to make sure you're not institutionalizing biases into your investment process. Because I think that is a really dangerous thing if you do that.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 48:05 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019
Disclosure
Marshall meets 80% of Hewlett managers annually as second chair
“In any given year, I meet with probably 80% of the managers in the portfolio, but I am there as a second chair entirely.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 25:28 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019
Disclosure
Marshall: Hewlett Foundation Allocates 16% to 17% to Venture Capital
“Oh, it's 1617.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 34:00 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019 bearish
Insight
Marshall: Hewlett exited long/short equity over paying 2-and-20 for beta
“What we decided is we can short cheaper than a hedge fund just based on our balance sheet if we ever wanted to. So why are we paying two and 20 to have somebody short beta for us? Why don't we just hire the best stock pickers on the planet? And then we can fig…”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 29:13 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019 neutral
Assertion Supported
Marshall: Hewlett receives no new capital inflows unlike endowments and sovereigns
“We don't have inflows of capital. So an endowment, an insurance company, a sovereign wealth fund, they're always putting money, new money to work. We don't have any new money. We just have existing money.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 39:37 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019 positive
Disclosure
Hewlett Foundation limits each asset class to 10 to 12 managers
“When we have an asset class, we only have roughly 10 to 12 managers per asset class. And so, each one of those managers, in and of themselves, for the most part, is a concentrated portfolio manager. So in effect, you basically have a hundred stock portfolio, w…”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 19:58 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Marshall: Hewlett finds talent in mega-firms that peer foundations ignore
“We have found tremendous talent Locked within ginormous organizations that my ENF peers don't really talk to.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 38:06 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Marshall: Majority of Hewlett Foundation managers have 10+ year tenures
“A majority of our managers have been in our portfolio for at least 10 years.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 24:52 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019 positive
Disclosure
Marshall: Hewlett Allocates 12% to Fixed Income, Far More Than Peers
“12 points in the portfolio, something like that. It's not huge, but it's far more than any of my peers, for sure.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 31:20 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019
Disclosure
Marshall: Hewlett Foundation executed secondary sale to reset real estate portfolio
“We had to accept that we made a pretty significant mistake in the way that we had constructed our real estate portfolio, and it happened to be at the time when we were also switching coverage, and we ended up basically doing a secondary sale and starting over.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 51:16 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019 neutral
Disclosure
Marshall: Hewlett Foundation eliminated its hedge fund category entirely
“What is different about our portfolio is we don't have a hedge fund category. So we run a risk management system and hedge funds just never fit into the risk management system.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 28:33 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019 neutral
Disclosure
Marshall: Hewlett does not require three-year track records for managers
“Like, we don't need to see a performance track record. Very little of what we do is based on a three year track record. So much of what we do is about the people.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 38:36 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019 positive
Disclosure
Marshall: Large foundation CIOs conduct annual open-book portfolio sharing
“We also have a more dedicated group, which is the large foundations, who share I would say similar challenges in that the granting programs and just the board ambition for granting programs really does color the type of risk and the type of duration we can run…”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 43:44 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019 neutral
Disclosure
Marshall: If I cannot convince my team, my investment argument is inadequate
“If I can't convince somebody, then that means my argument's not strong enough, and therefore I need to go back and strengthen my argument.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 48:28 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019 neutral
Disclosure
Marshall: Hewlett investment team compensation is tied to portfolio performance
“Everyone's compensation is based on how the portfolio does.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 46:41 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019 neutral
Assertion Supported
Marshall: Hewlett Foundation team manages $10.5 billion with eight people
“We are eight people in an investment team, okay? We're managing 10 and a half billion dollars.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 27:48 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Oct 21, 2019 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Marshall: Endowments shifted from treasurers to professional investment teams around 2002-2003
“And at this time was right when endowment and foundation money management was undergoing its own level of professionalization. For decades before that, you had had sort of the treasurer of the university or the treasurer of a foundation serve as the primary pe…”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 15:15 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Dec 19, 2022 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Marshall: The macroeconomic environment is returning to a 1990s normalized regime
“What we're really doing is going back to a world that existed starting in sort of 1991, 1992, through up into the crisis. So it was more of a normalized economy.”
Ana Marshall Dec 19, 2022 ▶ 6:32 Ana Marshall – Preparing for the New Environment at Hewlett (Capital Allocators, EP. 288)
Dec 19, 2022 negative
Opinion
Marshall: The fund boom massively expanded the universe of non-excellent managers
“There are very few really consistently excellent stock pickers. There are very few consistently excellent bond investors, just like in venture and just like in buyout. The last 15 years have massively expanded the universe of funds and firms. That weren't exce…”
Ana Marshall Dec 19, 2022 ▶ 48:29 Ana Marshall – Preparing for the New Environment at Hewlett (Capital Allocators, EP. 288)
Dec 19, 2022
Disclosure
Marshall: Hewlett Foundation maintains 50% illiquid assets and 5% cash buffer
“We have probably about 50% of the portfolio in illiquids. So we have about, I would say four to five percent in cash, some so that we can bridge what should be the contribution to pay out, and some so we can lean into dislocations.”
Ana Marshall Dec 19, 2022 ▶ 21:46 Ana Marshall – Preparing for the New Environment at Hewlett (Capital Allocators, EP. 288)
Jan 8, 2024
Insight
Marshall: Portfolio maturation reveals team burnout and relationship management mismatches
“Somewhere I would say between third camp and the summit, you start seeing people fray. It's funny because in climbing, you think these are all proportional, base camp to first camp to second camp. Going from third camp where you've built your portfolio to the …”
Ana Marshall Jan 8, 2024 ▶ 44:18 Ana Marshall – The Climb to Investment Excellence (EP.360)
Jan 8, 2024
Disclosure
Hewlett Foundation requires three validation objectives for every manager meeting
“We walk into every meeting with, these are the three things we have to walk out knowing, to confirm, to validate, and you have to walk out of the meeting, and then In the next team meeting, talk about whether that meeting led you to have more conviction, highe…”
Ana Marshall Jan 8, 2024 ▶ 39:11 Ana Marshall – The Climb to Investment Excellence (EP.360)
Jan 8, 2024
Disclosure
Marshall: Hewlett Foundation uses pre-mortem 'kill lists' for manager due diligence
“Not only do we start with a list of concerns, we also, thanks to your great guest, Annie Duke, we started adding what we call a kill list. So think of it as a pre-mortem. Pre-identify places where the firm, the manager style may not work.”
Ana Marshall Jan 8, 2024 ▶ 38:41 Ana Marshall – The Climb to Investment Excellence (EP.360)
Jan 8, 2024
Disclosure
Marshall: Hewlett Foundation maintains enough cash to fund one year of grants
“Our job is to make sure that we have a resilient portfolio where we don't need cash. We have enough cash on hand to where if the market shut down, we could still pay grants for the year.”
Ana Marshall Jan 8, 2024 ▶ 27:02 Ana Marshall – The Climb to Investment Excellence (EP.360)
Jul 20, 2026 negative
Insight
Laboy: Pitching "quality compounders" cedes narrative control to the LP
“The minute a manager comes in and tells you that they invest in quality compounders, the part that we all don't realize is they've ceded control of the conversation now to the listener. When you use a buzzword like that, the listener is going to fill the gap i…”
Luis Laboy Jul 20, 2026 ▶ 48:23 Senior Decision Makers: Luis Laboy, Hewlett Foundation (EP.512)
Jul 20, 2026
Insight
Laboy: Most Hewlett redemptions stem from internal strategy shifts, not talent
“What ends up happening more times than not is that You end up redeeming from a manager because we're shifting our perspective on what's changing in the market. We have to redeem from a manager that otherwise I think is extraordinarily talented, and I wish them…”
Luis Laboy Jul 20, 2026 ▶ 35:02 Senior Decision Makers: Luis Laboy, Hewlett Foundation (EP.512)
Jul 20, 2026
Disclosure
Laboy: Hewlett Foundation maintains a documented 'kill list' for every manager
“One of the things that I've done, and we borrowed this from Annie Duke and her book Quit, we've put together what we call is a kill list. For every manager in our book, we have what we call kill lists and key debates.”
Luis Laboy Jul 20, 2026 ▶ 34:31 Senior Decision Makers: Luis Laboy, Hewlett Foundation (EP.512)
Jul 20, 2026
Disclosure
Laboy: Hewlett's next-gen sleeve lowers confidence hurdles but maintains quality standards
“One of the structures that I did is I broke the portfolio into two where I had this core portfolio, and then you carve out a piece of the portfolio for this next generation set of managers where the hurdle isn't lower. We're still trying to find the same quali…”
Luis Laboy Jul 20, 2026 ▶ 32:09 Senior Decision Makers: Luis Laboy, Hewlett Foundation (EP.512)
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