Soros Fund Management

21 statements across 3 episodes · 5 bullish · 9 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Nov 4, 2019 by Dawn Fitzpatrick · said 47 times in 9 episodes since 2019 · across every show →

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Nov 4, 2019 positive
Disclosure
Fitzpatrick: Soros leverages public equities at Fed funds plus 20 bps
“We can borrow against our public equities at Fed funds plus 20 basis points, lever up this safe but esoteric private credit, and it works really well.”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 35:39 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019
Disclosure
Fitzpatrick: Soros allocates to 20 hedge funds and 90 PE funds
“So we allocate to 20 external hedge funds We allocate to over 90 external and private equity funds, and internally we have 28 portfolio managers and 17 kind of strategies or netting units”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 29:11 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019 negative
What-if
Fitzpatrick: Platform hedge funds cut struggling managers prematurely
“And if he was at a platform shop, he doesn't make it till September.”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 34:16 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019 bearish
Disclosure
Fitzpatrick: Soros Fund Management is letting its PE allocation roll down
“The private equity allocation that I inherited, and this goes back to our spend and what we're solving for being a little bit different than your typical foundation or endowment, we were over allocated to private equity generally with money in the ground and f…”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 41:19 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019 negative
Opinion
Fitzpatrick: Soros Fund portfolio was overly diversified upon her arrival
“So the interesting thing is the portfolio when I arrived was actually over diversified, I'd argue. So there weren't enough big bets in the portfolio.”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 24:02 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019
Disclosure
Fitzpatrick: Soros baseline risk profile aligns to a 60/40 portfolio
“This is neutral to what we expect to exist over kind of a five to seven year period, and for us, that equates to about a sixty-forty portfolio, so definitely not market neutral. That's fairly high octane, although it's less than your typical Foundation or endo…”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 25:03 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019 neutral
Disclosure
Fitzpatrick: Soros shifted public market allocation to 75% internal managers
“So in public markets, we're about 75% internal and 25% external. And when I came in, we were about fifty-fifty.”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 32:39 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019 negative
Insight
Fitzpatrick: Equity long/short managers add no value when moving beta
“When you look at equity long short managers, when they move beta, and we've looked at this a lot of different ways, we don't think there's real value added.”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 48:42 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019
Disclosure
Fitzpatrick: Soros reduced external manager allocations to increase portfolio concentration
“We really reduced the number of allocations we made to managers to try to increase the concentration and give ourselves the ability to make more big bets”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 24:29 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Fitzpatrick: Soros gets real-time price feeds on most external manager allocations
“That is a huge advantage that we have given, even with our external allocations, we get real-time price feeds on the vast majority of them.”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 46:51 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019 neutral
Insight
Fitzpatrick: Forward foundation commitments effectively function as portfolio leverage
“If you have forward foundation commitments, that is effectively leverage in your portfolio.”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 26:48 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Fitzpatrick: Soros external managers generated zero net beta-adjusted excess return
“When you aggregated our external managers and you took out kind of beta, which isn't hard to kind of approximate, we were not getting an excess return. It was Zero. And that's, you're paying a lot of fees, and you're adding a lot of complexity, and not getting…”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 49:53 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019 negative
Disclosure
Fitzpatrick: A 6% IRR PE manager asked Soros for a fee-paying extension
“We just had a firm that asked for an extension. The results of the so far have been poor. It's like a six percent IRR. They're asking for an extension where they want us to pay a management fee while they extend the call option of their performance fee.”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 39:35 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Nov 4, 2019 negative
Insight
Fitzpatrick: Open Society Foundations' inelastic spend restricts Soros risk capacity
“The Open Society Foundation has a less elastic spend because it's a huge global organization, so the ability to maneuver spend very quickly, it's just harder, and in that context, you can't take as much risk”
Dawn Fitzpatrick Nov 4, 2019 ▶ 25:36 Dawn Fitzpatrick – Multi-Faceted Investing at Soros Fund Management (Capital Allocators, EP.112)
Oct 25, 2021
Assertion Supported
Stanley Druckenmiller chaired Bowdoin's investment committee after leaving Soros
“Amazingly, Stanley Druckenmiller was the chair of the committee at that time. He had just left Soros and was doing Duquesne”
Paula Volent Oct 25, 2021 ▶ 13:20 Paula Volent – Star Endowment Manager's Next Act at Rockefeller University (Capital Allocators, EP.219)
Nov 4, 2024 bearish
Insight
Bessent: Why defending the British pound in 1992 was politically impossible
“My contribution was just an observation that the British housing market, that mortgages there, floated with the base rate, which is their overnight rate. And if the Bank of England raised rates on Wednesday, mortgages went up on Friday. If they were trying to …”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 26:49 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Nov 4, 2024 bearish
Assertion Partly supported
Bessent: 1992 pound short risked only 2.5% against massive asymmetric upside
“Because of the exchange rate mechanism, the Bank of England or the British government had to buy an unlimited number of pounds to keep the pound in a quarter. So it was an asymmetric bet. We could push them up against the wall And the most they could push us b…”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 29:01 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Nov 4, 2024 positive
Insight
Bessent: Great external managers provide big thematic trade ideas and SPVs
“A very good manager is someone you're proud to be invested with. They have good returns and you never have to worry about the phone call that things have gone pear-shaped. So that's a very good manager for an outside manager. A great manager would be someone w…”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 31:08 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Nov 4, 2024 positive
Opinion
Bessent: George Soros's Greatest Investment Was Hiring Stanley Druckenmiller
“I think the greatest investment he ever made was finding Stan, because in He turned over the portfolio, but was still kind of actively involved from the sidelines. Then the following year when the Berlin Wall came down, he was able to spend more of his time on…”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 25:28 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Nov 4, 2024
Assertion Partly supported
Bessent: Soros bought Jon Corzine's $3.5B Italian bond liquidation in 2011
“I think five days in, the biggest trade I'd ever done was John Corzine's firm got liquidated out of their Italian bond position, and it was a three and a half billion dollar trade. I still had the index card that I worked it out on. JP Morgan called us, and I …”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 36:22 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
Nov 4, 2024 positive
Insight
Bessent: Allocators Get Best Results Adding to Good Managers in Slumps
“There was a very good study from the Common Fund that said one of the most successful strategies for allocators that when you believe in the manager, and I always tried to do this when I was at Soros or any investment committee that I'm on, When a manager has …”
Scott Bessent Nov 4, 2024 ▶ 51:53 Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
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