short selling

11 statements across 7 episodes · 1 bullish · 5 bearish · 8 people on the record · first statement Jun 10, 2019 by Patrick O'Shaughnessy · across every show →

Everything said about short selling, oldest first

Jun 10, 2019 bearish
Insight
O'Shaughnessy: Borrow Costs and Volatility Eliminate Quantitative Short Paper Alpha
“Most of the stuff that screens as screaming shorts and in a paper portfolio works incredibly well. You have incredible problems with borrow availability, with borrowing cost, which often instantly removes the paper alpha and with volatility.”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 1:06:59 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jan 27, 2020 bearish
Opinion
Seides: Quant investing makes fundamental short selling difficult and unsuccessful
“You have a movement of quantitative investing, and that's really making it difficult for fundamentally driven investors to short stocks and be successful.”
Ted Seides Jan 27, 2020 ▶ 41:01 Ted Seides – A Rational Reminder (Capital Allocators, EP.121)
Apr 12, 2021
Disclosure
Liow: Aravt targets 15% to 30% gains on shorts versus multiples on longs
“Like on the long side, we're playing for multiples of our capital. On the short side, we're playing for between 15 and 30%.”
Yen Liow Apr 12, 2021 ▶ 35:43 Yen Liow - The Quest for the Right Tail at Aravt Global (Capital Allocators, EP.188)
Apr 12, 2021
Insight
Liow: First-quartile shorts are dangerous; target the second quartile instead
“The left side, we're focused on the second quartile consistently because the first quartile is extremely dangerous and very hard to replicate.”
Yen Liow Apr 12, 2021 ▶ 34:38 Yen Liow - The Quest for the Right Tail at Aravt Global (Capital Allocators, EP.188)
Dec 2, 2021 neutral
Insight
Cook: Short alpha generation is episodic compared to steady long alpha
“What I have found over the years is that long alpha generation tends to be a little more smooth and steady, not always, but a little more smooth and steady and short alpha generation tends to be a little more episodic. So there are periods when it just rains s…”
Will Cook Dec 2, 2021 ▶ 30:44 Will Cook - Sunriver Management (Manager Meetings, EP.22)
Dec 2, 2021 positive
Insight
Cook: Short sellers must hold positions longer for markets to become efficient
“Really good short ideas are hard to come by and the market's pretty smart. The longer you give the market, the more likely it is to be efficient.”
Will Cook Dec 2, 2021 ▶ 44:58 Will Cook - Sunriver Management (Manager Meetings, EP.22)
Dec 2, 2021 neutral
Insight
Cooper: Short selling requires more market sentiment feel than long investing
“Shorting is not just a mirror image of the long side. There are other things that need to be considered. And I think one important area is the kind of sentiment market feel, which I think you need more on the short side than perhaps you maybe do on the long si…”
Ben Cooper Dec 2, 2021 ▶ 7:49 Will Cook - Sunriver Management (Manager Meetings, EP.22)
Dec 2, 2021 bearish
Opinion
Cook: Widespread speculation on unproven business models creates attractive short pipeline
“I'd say that the tailwinds to short selling right now are that there's been a quite a lot of speculation and quite a lot of, I think, willingness of investors to embrace Fanciful business plans with hockey stick projections that are currently unproven and in b…”
Will Cook Dec 2, 2021 ▶ 35:42 Will Cook - Sunriver Management (Manager Meetings, EP.22)
Jul 11, 2022
Insight
The Best Shorts Have Flawed Business Models or Face Bankruptcy
“I think the best shorts are ones where there's either a fundamental flaw in the business model or is ultimately going to go bankrupt.”
Rob Citrone Jul 11, 2022 ▶ 20:34 Rob Citrone – Emerging Markets, Hedge Funds, and Staying in the Game (Capital Allocators, EP.261)
Mar 18, 2024 bearish
Insight
Tepper: Short selling is a negative carry game where time works against you
“And often now with high borrow costs and all hedge funds shorting the same names, you end up paying a lot more than you would have previously. So you're running a negative carry game where time's against you.”
Jonathan Tepper Mar 18, 2024 ▶ 23:06 Jonathan Tepper - Buying Monopolies at Prevatt Capital (EP.375)
Jul 22, 2024 bearish
Opinion
Small: Short selling consumes too much time and rarely makes sense
“Very, very few people were good at it, and it took up most of your time. To get shorts. Plus you were in some ways leveraging your longs in order to justify your shorting. So it just seemed to us to make no sense to do that.”
Rob Small Jul 22, 2024 ▶ 12:03 Rob Small and Anil Seetharam - Public Equity Adjacent to Private Equity at Stockbridge (EP.397)
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