Seth Klarman

28 statements across 2 episodes · 9 bullish · 7 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Nov 1, 2021 by Savneet Singh · said 60 times in 25 episodes since 2017 · across every show →

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Everything said about Seth Klarman, oldest first

Nov 1, 2021 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Singh: Seth Klarman and Dwight Anderson responded to his undergraduate cold outreach
“I started writing all of the investors that had gone to Cornell, Seth Klarman and Dwight Anderson, all these guys, and probably none of them remember me messaging them. And they all responded because this is before I think they had become the superstars that t…”
Savneet Singh Nov 1, 2021 ▶ 6:12 Savneet Singh – The Operator/Investor whose Software is Feeding the World (Capital Allocators, EP.220)
Jul 17, 2023 positive
Insight
Klarman: Catalysts Shorten Duration and Reduce Market Dependence
“Then you can also mitigate with catalysts. Catalysts shorten your duration. They make you less dependent on the overall level of the market in the future.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 56:02 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023
Insight
Klarman: Investing in Foreign Markets Without Local Presence Creates Serious Disadvantage
“We're humble enough and cautious enough to know that if you don't live in a country, if you don't have people that are active in that country, you're at a real disadvantage, and so I have no idea what the premium should be for buying Equities in Africa, equiti…”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 1:02:15 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023
Disclosure
Klarman: Passed on Boston Celtics stake before buying into the Red Sox
“Somebody had approached me to buy into the Celtics when that franchise changed hands something like 20 years ago. And I thought about it, I thought hard, but I passed because I felt like my true love was baseball. And I said to the sports agent who was marketi…”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 1:24:27 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 positive
Disclosure
Klarman: Baupost Holds Partner-Free Weekly Lunches for Analysts to Test Ideas
“We have our analysts meet once a week at lunch. Anybody who's around and wants to meet, the partners don't attend that. So it's a free space for analysts to be running things by each other and not feel like partners gonna hear them or they might judge them for…”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 46:52 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 neutral
Insight
Klarman: Value investing is an intellectual inoculation investors instantly grasp or reject
“Buffett also in that article makes the observation that value investing is something not everybody is comfortable with. But that it's like an inoculation. When you get introduced to the approach, either it makes sense and you get it or you don't.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 24:48 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 bearish
Opinion
Klarman: Distressed debt investing has probably changed for the worse
“The world of distressed debt still applies and is still really interesting, but there'd be whole new sections on that because the game has changed and for the worse, probably.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 1:23:07 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 bearish
Insight
Klarman: Academic Efficient Market Theories Break Down in Real-World Trading
“The academic idea was logical that there are transaction costs, and there are a lot of competitors, and even when there aren't that many, even one competitor can reprice a mispricing. But had they chosen instead to sit down at the trading desk of mutual shares…”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 16:28 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 negative
Insight
Klarman: Illiquidity itself does not generate excess investment returns
“There's been, I think, a great misunderstanding in recent years Among some people who run money, that illiquidity itself delivers degree of return. That if you take the illiquidity, you automatically get the return. I don't think anything could be weirder than…”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 59:19 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023
Disclosure
Klarman: Baupost requires prospective LPs to read five annual letters first
“Literally, I've had people offer us money, and I've said, I won't take your money until you read this annual letter, and you read the last five years, and you understand what we do”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 1:13:04 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 negative
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Klarman: AI and Automated Trading Will Not Make Markets Fully Efficient
“And I actually am pretty optimistic that they will remain Even if computers were replacing people as money managers, and we're doing all the trading, and that's because the nature of what causes the inefficiency, it's human, but I think the computers will mimi…”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 30:16 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 negative
Opinion
Klarman: American democracy is threatened by voter purges and gerrymandering
“Beyond the Massachusetts community, probably the single biggest area right now is democracy funding, because you know about how threatened American democracy is in terms of what happened in 2020, but also in terms of kicking people off the voter rolls and gerr…”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 1:30:58 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023
Disclosure
Klarman: Baupost Lets Proven Senior Partners Make Bets He Doubts
“If it's a senior partner who's produced a lot of profit for the clients over the years, and they want to do something that I'm not sure about, I tend to give them room to do that.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 49:14 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 negative
Opinion
Klarman: Burton Malkiel's Random Walk Down Wall Street Is 'Just Silliness'
“The first book that I read about the fish and market was Malkill, and it was about the random walk on Wall Street. I appreciated what he was trying to say, but I also knew that was just silliness”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 16:55 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 positive
Disclosure
Klarman: Baupost Invested in Chinese Equities for First Time in Decades
“We talked to our clients not that long ago about a few Chinese stocks we were finding. We had never owned anything in China for decades. It was in favor. Everybody was lining up to go there. I knew that they have a pretty authoritarian system of governance and…”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 1:01:25 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 neutral
Disclosure
Klarman plans to step down from running Baupost within 15 years
“I don't think I should be running bow post more than another 15 or so years.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 1:14:52 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 positive
Insight
Klarman: Structural complexity in corporate transactions creates mispriced arbitrage opportunities
“There are arbitrage opportunities, that the complexity leads sometimes to opportunity, that you need to really soak yourself in the details that opportunity may not immediately be apparent.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 13:50 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 neutral
What-if
Klarman: Baupost was originally planned as an allocator to outside managers
“Baupost would have been formed with me or without me, but my coming along maybe changed the trajectory, and they realized the original plan was to hand out the capital to smart money managers.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 20:15 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023
Insight
Klarman: Investors should require a 200 to 500 basis point illiquidity premium
“Generally, when clients ask this, I say you ought to make several hundred basis points. I don't know if that's 200 or 500 basis points, but giving up the liquidity, the right to change your mind is worth a lot.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 59:53 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 positive
Insight
Klarman: Baupost hunts 'miles wide' before drilling 'miles deep'
“I like to say we go miles wide to look for opportunity, and then when we think we found it, then we drill miles deep. Maybe the contrast is that other people are going miles deep first, so they know everything about every industry.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 36:16 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 negative
Disclosure
Klarman: 'Margin of Safety' failed to understand the value of intangible assets
“There are some things in it I wouldn't write today. Some things I think are just wrong. I didn't really do a good job on understanding the value of intangible assets, for example.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 1:22:58 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 bullish
Opinion
Klarman: The 15-year rotation from value to growth was a big overshoot
“Money has tended to flow into growth and out of value, some of which, by the way, justifiably, because disruption and a lot of businesses have had their long-term prospects damaged, but nevertheless, I think, in many ways, a big overshoot as people have become…”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 1:18:08 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023
Assertion Supported
Klarman: Baupost Has Lost Money in Only 5 of 41 Years
“So Baupost has only lost money in five of its 41 years, all but two of those have been in the mid-single-digit range or less.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 58:03 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 positive
Insight
Klarman: Value investing frameworks apply across all asset classes, not just equities
“So I think it gave me a good analytical grasp rather than being pigeonholed into one single asset class to understand that investors can look broadly across the landscape. And if you can figure out a stock, for example, why can't you figure out the value of th…”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 22:53 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 positive
Insight
Klarman: Investors must view the market as an erratic counterparty, not validator
“If you look to the market for feedback, the market might regularly say, you're an idiot, you bought it, now it's down, you don't know what you're doing, but the reality is that you've got to see that a little bit differently. You've got to see that as the mark…”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 26:33 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023
Disclosure
Klarman: Baupost avoids industry analysts, sourcing opportunistically across market inefficiencies
“We don't have industry analysts per se. We don't focus on a certain equity list of let's know these 200 stocks or let's look at certain kinds of industries because we like their growth prospects. We're set up in a much more opportunistic way Where are ineffici…”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 33:41 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023
Disclosure
Klarman: Baupost Compensates Staff on Firm-Wide Rather Than Individual Performance
“And we try to pay people not just on their own bottom line, but on a firm-wide bottom line for that exact reason.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 50:29 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
Jul 17, 2023 neutral
Opinion
Klarman: Western Europe Does Not Require Significant Risk Premium Over US
“The vast majority of our investments are US and Western Europe, and I don't know that Western Europe needs particularly significant risk premium over the US.”
Seth Klarman Jul 17, 2023 ▶ 1:02:38 Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328)
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