Seth Klarman
CEO & Portfolio Manager, The Baupost Group · 1 appearance on the record.
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He co-founded Boston-based hedge fund The Baupost Group in 1982 and built it into one of the world's most prominent value-investing firms. He authored the 1991 book Margin of Safety and served as lead editor for the seventh edition of Graham and Dodd's Security Analysis.
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Klarman: Pockets of private credit could blow up during downturns
“The nature of most Wall Street innovation is it's never stress tested for a rainy day, because that wouldn't be any fun. It's fun to sell a lot of bonds, sell a lot of stocks, sell a lot of partnerships, and rake in the investment banking fees, but when the ra…”
Klarman: Private equity returns would look far worse without government rescues
“Had that rescue not happened when it did, you might see very, very different numbers out of private equity.”
Klarman: AI and Automated Trading Will Not Make Markets Fully Efficient
“And I actually am pretty optimistic that they will remain Even if computers were replacing people as money managers, and we're doing all the trading, and that's because the nature of what causes the inefficiency, it's human, but I think the computers will mimi…”
Klarman: AI will likely struggle with sample-size-of-one financial transactions
“I believe that it's likely that the artificial intelligence dealing with a sample size of close to one on a particular oddball transaction may not know what to project.”
Klarman: Non-index stocks offer superior long-term value over index members
“Stocks kicked out of an index, in the short run, it underperforms. There's a lot of people that have to sell it, nobody that has to buy it. But I would argue that over a longer period of time, it's those stocks that don't make it into the index that are actual…”
Klarman: Baupost made its biggest profits averaging down on catalyzed ideas
“We have made our big dollar profits over the years, usually on ideas that have gone against us at first, and we average down, and when they are catalyzed, Which means some event is going to happen that will cause us to make money.”
Klarman: Without catalysts, being early and being wrong look identical
“The hardest thing about value investing without catalysts is you can own something that's out of favor for an incredibly long time and over five or 10 or longer year period. Looking, being early and being wrong look exactly the same, and you can start to get c…”
Klarman: Illiquidity itself does not generate excess investment returns
“There's been, I think, a great misunderstanding in recent years Among some people who run money, that illiquidity itself delivers degree of return. That if you take the illiquidity, you automatically get the return. I don't think anything could be weirder than…”
Klarman: Baupost Invested in Chinese Equities for First Time in Decades
“We talked to our clients not that long ago about a few Chinese stocks we were finding. We had never owned anything in China for decades. It was in favor. Everybody was lining up to go there. I knew that they have a pretty authoritarian system of governance and…”
Klarman: Markets have not begun to sort out the everything bubble
“I'm not convinced that we've even begun to sort out that bubble.”
Klarman: The 15-year rotation from value to growth was a big overshoot
“Money has tended to flow into growth and out of value, some of which, by the way, justifiably, because disruption and a lot of businesses have had their long-term prospects damaged, but nevertheless, I think, in many ways, a big overshoot as people have become…”
Klarman: American democracy is threatened by voter purges and gerrymandering
“Beyond the Massachusetts community, probably the single biggest area right now is democracy funding, because you know about how threatened American democracy is in terms of what happened in 2020, but also in terms of kicking people off the voter rolls and gerr…”
Klarman: Academic Efficient Market Theories Break Down in Real-World Trading
“The academic idea was logical that there are transaction costs, and there are a lot of competitors, and even when there aren't that many, even one competitor can reprice a mispricing. But had they chosen instead to sit down at the trading desk of mutual shares…”
Klarman: Burton Malkiel's Random Walk Down Wall Street Is 'Just Silliness'
“The first book that I read about the fish and market was Malkill, and it was about the random walk on Wall Street. I appreciated what he was trying to say, but I also knew that was just silliness”
Klarman: Value investing is an intellectual inoculation investors instantly grasp or reject
“Buffett also in that article makes the observation that value investing is something not everybody is comfortable with. But that it's like an inoculation. When you get introduced to the approach, either it makes sense and you get it or you don't.”
Klarman: Investors must view the market as an erratic counterparty, not validator
“If you look to the market for feedback, the market might regularly say, you're an idiot, you bought it, now it's down, you don't know what you're doing, but the reality is that you've got to see that a little bit differently. You've got to see that as the mark…”
Klarman: Baupost avoids industry analysts, sourcing opportunistically across market inefficiencies
“We don't have industry analysts per se. We don't focus on a certain equity list of let's know these 200 stocks or let's look at certain kinds of industries because we like their growth prospects. We're set up in a much more opportunistic way Where are ineffici…”
Klarman: Technological secular change makes modern value investing harder than Graham's era
“An investor has to be thinking about not just cyclical change, like Graham and Dodd were worried about in the Depression, but secular change as well, and the combination of that, I think, has made investing harder and value investing harder”
Klarman: Broad market didn't reach bargain levels in 2022, now overpriced
“There were certainly individual stocks that were oversold in the downdraft of 22, but the overall market did not really reach bargain levels. Maybe it reached fairly price levels, and now has rebounded again to overpriced levels.”
Klarman: Investors cannot make long-term investments without long-term clients
“The alignment is one of the most important success factors for any investor. If you don't have long-term oriented clients, you can't make long-term investments, and since I have no idea how to make short-term investments that work, I don't know how people with…”
Klarman: 'Margin of Safety' failed to understand the value of intangible assets
“There are some things in it I wouldn't write today. Some things I think are just wrong. I didn't really do a good job on understanding the value of intangible assets, for example.”
Klarman: Distressed debt investing has probably changed for the worse
“The world of distressed debt still applies and is still really interesting, but there'd be whole new sections on that because the game has changed and for the worse, probably.”
Klarman: Structural complexity in corporate transactions creates mispriced arbitrage opportunities
“There are arbitrage opportunities, that the complexity leads sometimes to opportunity, that you need to really soak yourself in the details that opportunity may not immediately be apparent.”
Klarman: Value investing frameworks apply across all asset classes, not just equities
“So I think it gave me a good analytical grasp rather than being pigeonholed into one single asset class to understand that investors can look broadly across the landscape. And if you can figure out a stock, for example, why can't you figure out the value of th…”
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Who brings them up most Ted Seides 13Ryan Batchelor 10Herb Wagner 10Paul Sonkin 3Kip McDaniel 3David Salem 3Reuben Munger 2Michael Mauboussin 2
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Singh: Seth Klarman and Dwight Anderson responded to his undergraduate cold outreach
“I started writing all of the investors that had gone to Cornell, Seth Klarman and Dwight Anderson, all these guys, and probably none of them remember me messaging them. And they all responded because this is before I think they had become the superstars that t…”
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2026 2 mentions in 1 episode
2025 13 mentions in 3 episodes 4 per episode
2024 8 mentions in 5 episodes 2 per episode
- David Salem - Investment Wisdom from the Owner's Box (EP.409)
- Ana Marshall – The Climb to Investment Excellence (EP.360)
- Scott Bessent - Macro Maven (EP.415)
- Kristof Gleich – Boutique Managers and Active ETFs at Harbor Capital (EP.411)
- Stephen Nesbitt – Innovation in Private Markets for RIAs (EP.410)
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2023 1 mention in 1 episode
2022 1 mention in 1 episode
2021 13 mentions in 3 episodes 4 per episode
2020 2 mentions in 1 episode
2019 6 mentions in 4 episodes 2 per episode
- Michael Mauboussin – Who's on the Other Side (Capital Allocators, EP.99)
- Khe Hy – Radical Shift from Investing to Purpose (Capital Allocators, EP.101)
- Ted Seides – Interviewing and Manager Meetings (Capital Allocators, EP.94)
- Rahul Moodgal - Master Fund Raiser (Capital Allocators, EP.87)
- every mention in 2019, scene by scene →
2018 5 mentions in 3 episodes 2 per episode
Appearances (1)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| Seth Klarman – Timeless Value Investing (EP.328) | Jul 17, 2023 | 1h 17m |