product-market fit

also referred to as: product market fit

7 statements across 5 episodes · 2 bullish · 1 bearish · 5 people on the record · first statement Jan 24, 2022 by Fabrice Grinda · across every show →

Everything said about product-market fit, oldest first

Jan 24, 2022
Insight
Grinda: Startups Die From Lack of PMF and Founder Conflict, Not Competition
“Actually the main thing founders worry about is competition, and yet the main thing that kills companies is product market fit, making the unit economics work, and co-founders fighting.”
Fabrice Grinda Jan 24, 2022 ▶ 47:11 Fabrice Grinda – Canvassing Seed Stage Marketplaces at FJ Labs, Venture is Eating the Investment World 4 (Capital Allocators, EP.232)
May 25, 2023 negative
Opinion
Zandiyeh: VC fixation on product-market fit ignores underlying business economics
“For many years now, what I think has been a disservice to the venture industry is this concept of product market fit. What it effectively has entailed from an investment strategy perspective is that when a company reaches or sees some level of demand, Irrespec…”
Kiyan Zandiyeh May 25, 2023 ▶ 46:48 Kiyan Zandiyeh – Empty Rooms: Venture Capital on the Emerging Frontier at Sturgeon Capital (Capital Allocators, EP.317)
Jul 13, 2023 neutral
Insight
Downturns serve as referendums on startup product-market fit
“Saw a lot of business models that up until then was masked with capital, and that's something that every downturn is a referendum on product market fit. Whereas before, when you had that run-up, capital or some other factor masked that,”
Ravi Viswanathan Jul 13, 2023 ▶ 5:31 Ravi Viswanathan – Venture Secondaries and Growth Capital at NewView (EP.327)
Sep 16, 2024
Insight
Maples: Product-market fit failures stem from audience, implementation, or lack of insight
“If we're not getting product market fit, it's like, okay, what is it that's not working about the audience? What is it that's not working about the implementation? Or do we just not have fundamental insight in the first place? But one of those three things has…”
Mike Maples, Jr. Sep 16, 2024 ▶ 44:55 Mike Maples Jr. - Identifying Startup Pattern Breakers (EP.406)
Sep 16, 2024
Insight
Startup Pivots Must Keep Insight Fixed While Varying Implementation or Audience
“If you have an insight, you have a first mover advantage into the future. And even if your initial implementation is wrong, it's a reference implementation of your insight. You can pivot the implementation by changing the implementation itself or by focusing o…”
Mike Maples, Jr. Sep 16, 2024 ▶ 42:12 Mike Maples Jr. - Identifying Startup Pattern Breakers (EP.406)
Sep 16, 2024 positive
Insight
Maples: Startups with true product-market fit only need to teach, not persuade
“The more powerful my insight is, the more likely it is that I can have strong product market fit because I have something highly unique and highly empowering. And by definition, something that's highly unique and highly empowering should have someone desperate…”
Mike Maples, Jr. Sep 16, 2024 ▶ 43:45 Mike Maples Jr. - Identifying Startup Pattern Breakers (EP.406)
Nov 6, 2025 positive
Insight
Hiring a non-founding sales team indicates repeatable product-market fit
“If a company just hired its first non-founding sales team, that means they found product market fit, and it's on repeat, and they can get the founder out of their sales job.”
Dave Thornton Nov 6, 2025 ▶ 18:08 Dave Thornton – Unlocking Venture Access Through Stock Options at Vested (EP.469)
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