Patrick O'Shaughnessy

21 statements across 4 episodes · 9 bullish · 4 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement May 2, 2017 by Patrick O'Shaughnessy · said 22 times in 17 episodes since 2017 · across every show →

On the record as a speaker too: Patrick O'Shaughnessy's record, appearances and statements → this page counts the times other people say the name.

Mentions by year

brought up most by Ted Seides (12), Morgan Housel (2), Josh Brown (2), Tom Lydon (1), Khe Hy (1), Jenny Heller (1), Gavin Baker (1), David Rosenthal (1)

tap a year for its mentions
0033552017201820192020202120222023202420252026episodesmentions
0352017201820192020202120222023202420252026episodes it came up in
0012.5252017201820192020202120222023202420252026episodesmentions per episode
2026 1 mention in 1 episode
2025 2 mentions in 2 episodes 1 per episode
2024 5 mentions in 3 episodes 2 per episode
2022 1 mention in 1 episode
2021 5 mentions in 5 episodes 1 per episode
2018 3 mentions in 2 episodes 2 per episode
2017 5 mentions in 3 episodes 2 per episode

every mention, scene by scene, with the transcript →

Everything said about Patrick O'Shaughnessy, oldest first

May 2, 2017 neutral
Insight
O'Shaughnessy: Alpha in financial markets depends strictly on relative skill
“Really all that matters in markets is relative skill. That if you've got, you know, 10 PhDs in a room, maybe 3040 years ago, that meant you were going to earn enormous alpha. But now everyone has those 10 PhDs, and they're fighting against each other. It's a r…”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy May 2, 2017 ▶ 56:37 The Bet with Buffett (Capital Allocators, EP.05)
Jun 10, 2019 negative
Disclosure
O'Shaughnessy: OSAM failed to make factor timing work despite massive research effort
“We have burned an insane amount of our time Capital, human capital, stress, just every kind of capital trying to make this work, and it has not.”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 1:03:32 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019
Insight
O'Shaughnessy: Negative stock returns are concentrated in the worst factor decile
“Most of the really interesting return, in this case, negative, bad return that you want to avoid, is concentrated in the tails, in the worst decile.”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 26:08 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 positive
Insight
O'Shaughnessy: Publicly sharing quant findings produces stronger signals via feedback
“In quant research, this is really interesting, which is that you actually get a stronger signal. We found when you share your general findings, not necessarily the code or the particulars, but the general findings with a broad audience, then all of a sudden yo…”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 42:23 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 bearish
Insight
O'Shaughnessy: High quality metrics do not generate excess returns; low quality destroys them
“In the quantitative sense, high ROEs or gross profitability or whatever your measure of quality is really isn't indicative of strong future excess returns. What's really useful about quality is that very bad quality, so really over levered balance sheets, comp…”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 14:37 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 negative
Disclosure
O'Shaughnessy: OSAM Failed Three Times Attempting Short Strategies Internally
“We've done it with our own capital three times and failed miserably each time, not an absolute return sense, but certainly an opportunity cost sense because it's been during this great run up. So we've lost a lot of return with our own capital trying to do thi…”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 1:06:35 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 neutral
Assertion Supported
O'Shaughnessy: Key Investment Factors Historically Succeeded in Only 60-70% of Single Years
“In our research, luckily, those categories are honestly straightforward and simple. They're things like valuation, things like momentum, quality, return of capital. They're not crazy concepts. You just have to apply them with a lot of discipline, and I think t…”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 11:11 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 positive
Opinion
O'Shaughnessy: No asset manager is applying tech platform principles holistically
“Asking whether or not we can apply those principles to a very simple old school asset management business. And the answer, at least in my view, unequivocally so far as yes, and nobody else is doing it. Or at least they're not doing it holistically as part of h…”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 45:46 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 bearish
Insight
O'Shaughnessy: Borrow Costs and Volatility Eliminate Quantitative Short Paper Alpha
“Most of the stuff that screens as screaming shorts and in a paper portfolio works incredibly well. You have incredible problems with borrow availability, with borrowing cost, which often instantly removes the paper alpha and with volatility.”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 1:06:59 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 positive
Assertion Supported
O'Shaughnessy: Momentum forecasts fundamental growth better than valuation multiples
“What fascinates me about this is momentum does a better job of forecasting future fundamental growth than price does. So the highest momentum decile has better future fundamental growth than the most expensive, let's say PE decile or free cashflow yield decile…”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 13:56 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
O'Shaughnessy: Predictive modeling will get easier, shifting advantage to input data
“I believe that the predictive modeling part of this is going to get easier and easier. So what that means is what you put into those models is of critical importance.”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 1:05:28 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 positive
Insight
O'Shaughnessy: Factor Strategies Like Momentum Should Never Be One-Off Trades
“So unless you really buy into these concepts at a deep level and are willing to stick with them through cycles, I think you probably shouldn't apply them at all. You shouldn't apply momentum into a one off trade. You should apply it in the right way systematic…”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 11:42 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 neutral
Insight
O'Shaughnessy: Equity returns only stem from growth, multiple expansion, or capital returns
“When you're holding for that long, and you think about equities at an elemental level, I think there's just three ways to earn return. The businesses you own grow. In sales, earnings, EBITDA, whatever it is, free cash, the multiples of those fundamentals expan…”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 12:20 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019
Insight
O'Shaughnessy: Factor alpha comes from execution discipline, not awareness
“That says that the source of the excess return is not knowing about the thing. It's doing the thing.”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 44:18 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 positive
Disclosure
O'Shaughnessy: All OSAM investment factors have behavioral explanations
“So I would argue all the factors that we use here have a behavioral component, or at least a compelling behavioral explanation for why they work.”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 43:55 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 bullish
Assertion Supported
O'Shaughnessy: Companies buying back 5%+ shares annually historically outperform peers
“Super normally high buyback yields, and a simple definition of this might be a company which is buying back five percent of its shares or more in a one-year period of time, which is a lot. That's a big deployment of capital. That kind of company historically h…”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 15:21 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019
Insight
O'Shaughnessy: Best quant researchers are defined by extensive failure experience
“The best way to know that someone's going to be an effective and efficient researcher going forward into the future is that they know what not to do. And I think the only way to do that is to build up that experience of failure through time.”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 1:02:47 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019
Disclosure
O'Shaughnessy: OSAM team spent three full years cleaning primary dataset
“We once spent three full years, the entire team spent three full years just cleaning and scrubbing data in our primary data set.”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 1:05:10 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jun 10, 2019 positive
Disclosure
O'Shaughnessy: OSAM Strictly Prohibits Researchers From Discarding Failed Studies
“And in our case as a business building, we've got a pretty strict rule around OSAM when it comes to building. You can't just do a research study and if it doesn't work, just like forget about it. You need to bring it into our ecosystem in a way that can be use…”
Patrick O'Shaughnessy Jun 10, 2019 ▶ 40:29 Patrick O'Shaughnessy – O'Shaughnessy Asset Management (First Meeting, EP.01)
Jan 1, 2024 neutral
Insight
Housel: Outlier Founders Like Musk and Bezos Are Tortured, Not Ambitious
“Patrick said the phrase that he would use to describe their personality is not driven by It's not ambitious. It's tortured. They wake up every morning tortured that they are not more successful, bigger, richer than they are. And I think that's true for virtual…”
Morgan Housel Jan 1, 2024 ▶ 44:25 Morgan Housel – Same as Ever (EP.359)
Mar 2, 2026 bullish
Insight
Baker: A high-IQ social following sharpens investment ideas and drives venture deal flow
“Our friend Patrick O'Shaughnessy has said having a big High IQ following is actually a superpower, and it really is. So I think for sharpening your ideas, it's incredible. Then there's a whole nother dynamic. It really matters for deal flow.”
Gavin Baker Mar 2, 2026 ▶ 1:04:45 Gavin Baker – Truth-Seeking and Crossover Investing at Atreides (EP.489)
Made with StarZero

Turn any episode into a week of clips.

This entire site, over 700 episodes transcribed, diarized, checked and made playable, runs on the StarZero media pipeline. Drop in your own episode and the podcast clipper finds the moments worth sharing, cuts them, captions them, and reframes them for every feed.