M&A

13 statements across 12 episodes · 3 bullish · 2 bearish · 12 people on the record · first statement Jan 8, 2018 by Michael Mauboussin · across every show →

Everything said about M&A, oldest first

Jan 8, 2018
Insight
Mauboussin: Analysts Usually Evaluate Deals As One-Offs Rather Than Using Frameworks
“And I just found as an analyst over the years and a strategist and so forth that analysts, almost every deal, it's like a one-off right there. They're analyzing it without a framework. And if you have a framework for it just allows you to put things into conte…”
Michael Mauboussin Jan 8, 2018 ▶ 1:11:23 Michael Mauboussin – Active Challenges, Rational Decisions and Team Dynamics (Capital Allocators, EP.36)
Jun 11, 2018 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lydon: Asset managers pay premium valuations to acquire established ETF shops
“We're seeing a lot of M&A going on in the space already. There are a lot of managers who were late to the game, and rather than create it themselves, they'd want to go in and buy somebody. So it's hot right now, and managers are paying premium prices For estab…”
Tom Lydon Jun 11, 2018 ▶ 56:00 Tom Lydon – ETF Trends (Capital Allocators, EP.56)
Sep 17, 2018
Insight
McKeon: Risk-taking CEOs run firms with higher leverage and volatility
“So essentially the CEOs that had higher levels of risk taking in their private lives, we saw the same attributes in the firm. So everything from higher leverage, Higher prevalence of M&A activity, higher equity return volatility. It was almost like everything …”
Stephen McKeon Sep 17, 2018 ▶ 15:28 Stephen McKeon – Professor of Crypto Security Tokens (Capital Allocators, EP.69)
Nov 1, 2021
Insight
Singh: Build novel software internally, but acquire established categories via M&A
“We should be only building software that is truly new and novel, where we're going to be first or second to market. But if we're late to a market, the catch-up work, we've got to do that through M&A, because then you're buying market share, you're cutting pric…”
Savneet Singh Nov 1, 2021 ▶ 38:14 Savneet Singh – The Operator/Investor whose Software is Feeding the World (Capital Allocators, EP.220)
Feb 13, 2023 negative
Insight
Clearlake requires deal models to show returns without assuming unidentified M&A
“If you were an investment committee, clearly you would know that you showed me an upside case that includes a bunch of acquisitions that we haven't done that have not been identified. You're going to be called out for it. It's okay to have a buy and build stra…”
Jose Feliciano Feb 13, 2023 ▶ 1:03:50 José E. Feliciano – Flexible Private Market Investing at Clearlake (Capital Allocators, EP. 297)
Jan 25, 2024
Disclosure
Summe: eGateway Capital operates an in-house boutique M&A advisory shop
“One of our partners is a longtime investment banker in this space, and we have a boutique M&A shop that's under the eGateway banner, and if we can help with non-organic growth, we're really excited to do so.”
Chad Summe Jan 25, 2024 ▶ 29:35 Chad Summe and Mike Veith – Corridor of Commerce at eGateway Capital (EP.364)
Jun 17, 2024
Assertion Supported
PE IPO exits average a 42% pop versus 25% for M&A
“On exit, M&A on average is 25%, and IPOs are 42%, POPs, which would suggest that public markets pays more for assets on the exits than M&A does, corporates.”
Yann Robard Jun 17, 2024 ▶ 28:12 Yann Robard - Liquidity Solutions for Private Capital at Dawson (EP.392)
Feb 10, 2025
Insight
Charles: Fundraising pressures and product proliferation drive PE manager consolidation
“Manager consolidation and M&A is a theme that has been emerging and dominant for the last couple of years. But it is an emergent trend from several themes that are happening under the surface within this asset class around fundraising, product proliferation, i…”
Ian Charles Feb 10, 2025 ▶ 12:24 Ian Charles - Private Equity's New Rules (EP.431)
Feb 17, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Choe: Inorganic earnings growth correlates with PE returns almost as strongly as organic
“And startlingly, the R squared on total Earnings growth is almost as strong as organic growth only, and I think the reason for that is that when a company is approving acquisitions and we're obviously in control of that decision, we're typically doing it with …”
Mike Choe Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 37:46 Michael Choe - Atomization of Private Equity Decisions at Charlesbank (EP.432)
Nov 6, 2025
Insight
Companies facing acquisition freeze spending to preserve revenue multiples
“Usually you don't spend any new money when you're being acquired, because every dollar that goes out the door has some revenue multiple attached to it.”
Dave Thornton Nov 6, 2025 ▶ 8:52 Dave Thornton – Unlocking Venture Access Through Stock Options at Vested (EP.469)
Dec 8, 2025 positive
Insight
Wolfe: Oligopolistic M&A bidding wars generate better returns than IPOs
“Our best outcomes, as an aside, have always been an oligopolistic industry structure where there's three or four players who are going to irrationally compete to own the asset because they want it and they don't want their competitor to get it leads to the bes…”
Josh Wolfe Dec 8, 2025 ▶ 15:59 Josh Wolfe & Brett McGurk – Venture, Geopolitics, and the Next Frontier (EP.476)
Jan 19, 2026 bearish
Insight
Kleinman: Large-scale M&A in asset management is fraught due to cultural mismatch
“The asset management industry is fraught with bad M&A. It's hard to merge two completely disparate cultures. Tuck-ins are fine, but bringing in big stock mergers are tricky in the asset management industry where your people are your asset.”
Scott Kleinman Jan 19, 2026 ▶ 47:38 Scott Kleinman – Apollo's Integrated Alternatives Platform (EP.481)
Jan 19, 2026 neutral
Disclosure
Kleinman: Apollo rarely used public stock for M&A as originally anticipated
“The one thing that I would have thought we would have done more, having a currency for acquisitions, was one of the reasons we went public. It hasn't materialized in the way we would have thought at the time. We tend to do a better job building our own busines…”
Scott Kleinman Jan 19, 2026 ▶ 47:17 Scott Kleinman – Apollo's Integrated Alternatives Platform (EP.481)
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