IRR

also referred to as: irrs

13 statements across 13 episodes · 5 bullish · 4 bearish · 13 people on the record · first statement Sep 30, 2019 by Joe Lonsdale · across every show →

Everything said about IRR, oldest first

Sep 30, 2019 positive
Assertion Supported
Lonsdale's first venture fund achieved an IRR of over 40 percent
“Our first firm's over 40% IRR, you know, it's 50,”
Joe Lonsdale Sep 30, 2019 ▶ 21:56 Joe Lonsdale – Entrepreneurship and 8VC (First Meeting, EP.09)
Apr 23, 2020 positive
Insight
Long-term compounding manager relationships beat short-term high IRR bursts
“For relationships that can compound over a long time into something Really big, even if there's a lower nominal return to that, if you don't have that kind of reinvestment risk, you may want to choose that relationship over something that has more of a burst o…”
Andy Golden Apr 23, 2020 ▶ 24:19 Andrew Golden – Navigating Princeton's Endowment Through (Another) Crisis (Capital Allocators, EP.133)
Apr 5, 2021 neutral
Insight
Garcia: Private equity should be evaluated for PME spread, not headline IRR
“The reason why you buy private equity isn't for the total return, in my view, it's the relative return to your PME, because a private equity portfolio or private equity management, let me just give you an example. Let's say they generate a 12% IR. Well, if you…”
Dominic Garcia Apr 5, 2021 ▶ 44:36 Dominic Garcia – Risk-based Investing at New Mexico PERA (Capital Allocators, EP.187)
Jan 24, 2022 positive
Assertion Supported
Grinda: AngelList study proves high-volume qualified investing increases fund IRR
“AngelList did a study of all of their different mini funds on AngelList to see which ones were the most successful. And their ultimate conclusion was The more qualified deals, and of course we need to define what qualified means, you invest in, the higher your…”
Fabrice Grinda Jan 24, 2022 ▶ 37:52 Fabrice Grinda – Canvassing Seed Stage Marketplaces at FJ Labs, Venture is Eating the Investment World 4 (Capital Allocators, EP.232)
Sep 19, 2022 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Harris: Rebalancing hedge fund managers added hundreds of basis points to IRR
“We spent a lot of time looking at our IRR with hedge fund managers. We've been able to add a couple hundred basis points by taking money away when they're up and adding when they're down.”
Jon Harris Sep 19, 2022 ▶ 53:28 Friends Reunion 2 – Five Allocators Riff on Investing with Meredith Jenkins, Casey Whalen, Brett Barth, Jon Harris, and Ted Seides (Capital Allocators, EP.271)
Dec 1, 2022 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Tom Majewski: 2006 and 2007 CLOs far outperformed their pitch-book base cases
“And what turned out to be the 2006 and 2007 CLOs, the vintage medians from those periods far outperformed the base case in the pitch books. Not because they had good loans. They probably had some bad loans, but they had the ability to keep reinvesting with loc…”
Tom Majewski Dec 1, 2022 ▶ 14:23 Thomas Majewski – Empty Rooms: Masterclass on CLOs at Eagle Point Credit Management (Capital Allocators, EP. 284)
May 22, 2023 negative
Insight
Amy Falls: Private equity IRR is easily manipulated via portfolio marks
“In lots of parts of the market, the data is easy to manipulate. Depending on how liquid, even not just private equity, but how do you mark a credit book is very important. Some people market mid-market, some people mark bid and ask. I think it's useful to star…”
Amy Falls May 22, 2023 ▶ 38:47 Amy Falls – From Bonds to Boards to Leading Northwestern (Capital Allocators, EP.316)
Jun 12, 2023 negative
Disclosure
Sacca: We manage for return multiples, not IRR, and avoid credit lines
“I don't manage for IRR. I manage for multiples. So we don't run a line of credit, for instance. That would be a much better way to eke out another point of IRR, but that's not how I want to run the business.”
Chris Sacca Jun 12, 2023 ▶ 1:09:38 Chris Sacca – Hustling to Save the Planet at Lowercarbon (Capital Allocators, EP.321)
Apr 11, 2024 neutral
Insight
CLO equity liquidations often return just 40 to 50 cents on the dollar
“There's no par payout at the end. A lot of times you're getting back 40 cents, 50 cents on the dollar. Now, over the eight-year life of the CLO, you've got these very large distributions along the way. Hopefully it nets to a nice return for you, but you don't …”
Shiloh Bates Apr 11, 2024 ▶ 38:16 Shiloh Bates – CLO Investing at Flat Rock Global (EP.379)
Sep 30, 2024 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Salem: Top LPs realize cash returns far below reported venture capital IRRs
“A lot of LPs of longstanding relationships going 3040 years back to the firms that are still on the short list of what are the best BFC firms in the world have gotten returns that are quite a bit south of The IRRs that reported in those manager records.”
David Salem Sep 30, 2024 ▶ 50:17 David Salem - Investment Wisdom from the Owner's Box (EP.409)
Jul 14, 2025
Insight
Sullivan: Sustained 30-40% PE IRRs inevitably get bid down by inflows
“If there's a world where firms are generating consistently 30, 40% IRRs, people are going to notice that, and some people are going to say, hey, I should do that too, and then the returns inevitably get bid down.”
Tim Sullivan Jul 14, 2025 ▶ 21:24 Tim Sullivan – Yale's Private Portfolio (EP.456)
Sep 15, 2025
Insight
Meli: Portfolios should not be sized purely on highest IRRs
“And the portfolio isn't sized based on the highest IRRs. A lot of times the highest IRRs have the fattest tails to them.”
Adrian Meli Sep 15, 2025 ▶ 47:23 Adrian Meli – Active Equity Excellence at Eagle (EP.459)
Nov 17, 2025 negative
Insight
Lyon: Evaluate funds on MOIC, duration, and deployed capital, not manipulable IRR
“And then just people that are obsessed with IRR, because in these funds, there are ways to manipulate it. You have to look at multiple of capital and how many years you're stuck and the average amount of capital deployed, and then use that as a litmus test ver…”
David Lyon Nov 17, 2025 ▶ 1:13:40 David Lyon – Hybrid Capital Solutions for Private Assets (EP.471)
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