Canyon Partners

11 statements across 2 episodes · 7 bullish · 2 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Sep 9, 2019 by Matt Whineray · said 14 times in 6 episodes since 2019 · across every show →

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Everything said about Canyon Partners, oldest first

Sep 9, 2019 positive
Disclosure
NZ Super Fund uses Canyon and Bain for distressed credit
“Other things like stress credit, we'll use Canyon or Bain because we're not going to be able to have that expertise in house”
Matt Whineray Sep 9, 2019 ▶ 27:14 Matt Whineray – Leading New Zealand Super Fund (Capital Allocators, EP.108)
Jul 25, 2022 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Friedman: Oaktree Outpaced Early Canyon by Targeting Institutional Asset Allocation Boxes
“I remember when our good friends, Bruce Karsh and Howard Marks left Trust Company in the West to start Oak Tree and almost instantly had more capital than we did, or at least as much, and we had started a few years earlier, and part of it was that they underst…”
Josh Friedman Jul 25, 2022 ▶ 19:34 Josh Friedman – Master Class in Credit Investing at Canyon (Capital Allocators, EP.263)
Jul 25, 2022 negative
Insight
Friedman: Distressed debt capital flows are almost always counter-cyclical to opportunity
“It drives me crazy, but I find that capital flows in our business are almost always counter-cyclical from what they should be.”
Josh Friedman Jul 25, 2022 ▶ 1:00:00 Josh Friedman – Master Class in Credit Investing at Canyon (Capital Allocators, EP.263)
Jul 25, 2022 positive
Insight
Friedman: Canyon Operates Under the Mantra 'Prepare, Don't Predict'
“We try to prepare ourselves as opposed to predict. That's one of the mantras we repeat often here is prepare, don't predict.”
Josh Friedman Jul 25, 2022 ▶ 53:00 Josh Friedman – Master Class in Credit Investing at Canyon (Capital Allocators, EP.263)
Jul 25, 2022
Insight
Friedman: Financial crises are always caused by leverage and liquidity mismatch
“The entire history of the financial world is one of crises that are born of exactly what you say, where you have a combination of illiquid assets held by a firm that has liquid liabilities, like a bank, and is leveraged. So leveraged and a mismatch is always t…”
Josh Friedman Jul 25, 2022 ▶ 38:57 Josh Friedman – Master Class in Credit Investing at Canyon (Capital Allocators, EP.263)
Jul 25, 2022 positive
Insight
Friedman: Top distressed investments get paid for solving problems, not taking risk
“Those are always good because you get paid not for taking risk, but for solving a problem.”
Josh Friedman Jul 25, 2022 ▶ 1:01:31 Josh Friedman – Master Class in Credit Investing at Canyon (Capital Allocators, EP.263)
Jul 25, 2022 negative
Insight
Friedman: Institutional allocators copy foolish market trends due to peer benchmarking
“Sometimes they get a little too caught up in the competition of what everyone else is doing because they all get benchmarked and paid based on how everybody else is doing in the industry. So if everybody's doing goofy things, they might just do the same goofy …”
Josh Friedman Jul 25, 2022 ▶ 53:54 Josh Friedman – Master Class in Credit Investing at Canyon (Capital Allocators, EP.263)
Jul 25, 2022 positive
Insight
Friedman: Buy unloved, complex credit assets that will eventually simplify
“So what was complicated today was going to be simple in the future because the bankruptcy process has run its course or because the buyer was going to divest of things and then be a nice, pure play, simple company or whatever. But generally speaking, complex t…”
Josh Friedman Jul 25, 2022 ▶ 18:34 Josh Friedman – Master Class in Credit Investing at Canyon (Capital Allocators, EP.263)
Jul 25, 2022 positive
Insight
Friedman: Transparency gives LPs a reason to stay during underperformance
“And I also think that no investor will always do a great job at every point in every cycle. So you may as well give people a second reason to stick with you if you happen to do a poor job on the investing side, and I think having good transparency and complian…”
Josh Friedman Jul 25, 2022 ▶ 23:24 Josh Friedman – Master Class in Credit Investing at Canyon (Capital Allocators, EP.263)
Jul 25, 2022 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Friedman: Corporate distress is delayed by low coupons and cov-lite debt
“I would expect there will be some distress, but I think it's going to take a little while before that develops because a lot of the paper that's been issued doesn't have covenants or has very, very light covenants, and coupons are really low.”
Josh Friedman Jul 25, 2022 ▶ 44:51 Josh Friedman – Master Class in Credit Investing at Canyon (Capital Allocators, EP.263)
Jul 25, 2022 positive
Insight
Friedman: Credit firms must compensate their analysts for not investing
“You have to reward people for not investing, as well as for investing, because there's a time when their areas are not particularly attractive, and you don't want to push people to invest, so you want them to own a piece of the overall firm carry, if you will,…”
Josh Friedman Jul 25, 2022 ▶ 27:45 Josh Friedman – Master Class in Credit Investing at Canyon (Capital Allocators, EP.263)
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