The Exchanges

Q of course. You know, Tim's wife, he got this badass woman who's beautiful and, you know, kids and also really tough, but when you told me what you had to do to get her attention, you know, you took a, maybe more face punches in that than you did in the UFC. Like, what was the story about how you finally got her to say yes to even a date?

A She didn't say yes. I know. One, I had to figure out her pattern of life. This, if you try to do this to my daughters, I will find you and I'll wear your skin as a birthday suit. I'm being super clear here. Like, this is stalking. But in, ah, you know, in 2005, this is okay behavior for a special forces guy in a, in a special forces town. So, like, I had to figure out who her friends were. I had to figure out where she worked. I had to, I had to find out, like, what she liked to do, and I found all of this out from her friends, which I was slowly starting to befriend as I was building the network of people around her. So, you sound so bad. Oh god. Once I made friends with all of her friends, Uh, I created an event knowing the things that she likes. Music, food, wine. So we're going to do this, this live music wine pairing at my kind of historic house downtown Fayetteville. Um, and I told all of the friends different times than what she was told. She was told a time to the left, and they were told a time a little bit later to the right. And so when she showed up, 20, 30 minutes late. To her time, it was still 20:30 minutes before anybody else was gonna show up. And this was like the Razor three flip phone era, where you had to hit, like, if you wanted the letter C, you'd hit the, um, letter two, three times A, B, C. So I had saved a draft of a text message to go out to all of th…

AI assessment note: “She didn't say yes. I know. One, I had to figure out her pattern of life.”

Q so good, and you, you had some silver lining, which was, you said, a ninety-two-year-old Army Ranger vet volunteered to help the crew do evacuations. He said he is ready to go if we need him. Said he hasn't jumped in 40 years, but has enough under his belt to help. I love the American spirit. So were there, was there an American spirit that you saw despite it all?

A Yeah, we'll, we'll super swing to the positive side of this. The, From Afghanistan to Western North Carolina, the response of the American people, uh, the generosity of the entrepreneur and veteran community to do what the government couldn't even do. You know, we're, we're, what, 35 trillion dollars in debt because our government is so gigantic, yet it took a few individuals stepping up. You know, Isaiah six, eight, I heard the voice of the Lord say, who shall I send? And I responded with, here I am, send me. Like, that was the, The war cry to thousands of capable, incredible people. And that 92 year old is, is, I tweeted that to represent an idea. There were 25 year olds with Toyota Overland. They, you know, we make fun of them, and it's totally fine that we do, because they're kind of dorks. Um, and they, you know, came in from Tennessee, or they drove up from northern Florida, from Louisiana, from Mississippi, and, um, they got a couple of chainsaws in the back. Uh, yeah, still, or Husqvarna and, and, uh, FEMA has roadblocks, and they're like, you guys aren't allowed to go up there. Like, you can't get up there, and they're like, I'm gonna make a bet, you know? Uh, like, I'll take two of them rednecks in, in a Toyota Overlander that over a hundred PhDs from the federal government, and they literally would, they could get into areas that nobody could get into, and they were …

AI assessment note: “the response of the American people, uh, the generosity of the entrepreneur and veteran community”

Q You have a couple daughters, but you have one that's, that's still quite young. Will you let her make all the mistakes, like you will your young son? Do you think there's a difference between men and women and how you parent them in that way?

A Yeah, but there's definitely a difference about how you parent every single child, and especially boys and girls. Um, but I mean, I'll argue that the amount of adversity that women have to overcome is, is far more significant than the, the, the type of adversity that I have to overcome as a man. So that girl, that little girl being able to have the confidence and the power behind her voice and know like, like that four year old. Like, go up and try to touch her. She has a voice, and is like, I don't know you, don't touch me. You know, like, just instantly, automatically, you know, like, not stranger danger, just like, you're a weird person, get away. Uh, and, you know, like, where did that confidence come from? That confidence came from her doing hard things, like watching her, where it's just, she was in hockey practice, she's four, she was in hockey practice yesterday, and I was like, why were you drawing on the ice? And, uh, she's like, Well, I kept falling, so she was like sitting down on the ice, and she was drawing with a puck, and I was like, well, how do you think you're gonna fall less? She's like, by skating more? I'm like, were you gonna skate more sitting on the ice drawing? And she's like, fine. She throws the puck, and she gets up, and she skates off.

AI assessment note: “there's definitely a difference about how you parent every single child, and especially boys”

Q What do you mean by that, and how do you watch out for that?

A Um, I think there's three kind of energies With people. You have people that create negative energy. You know, they, they, they, they're just like a succubus of, of joy and attention, and, and they need to be in these positional places of authority. And then you have, um, kind of new energy neutral people that they, they want to contribute, you know, but they, they also have their goals and their ambitions. And those are amazing employees. You know, those are incredible people. And then there's just the natural leaders. That's the Mike Weimers. That's the General Georges. Um, That's the Mattises that bring a wealth of knowledge, a wealth of expertise, no ego, and they joyfully, um, will stand in the back while somebody else gets the credit for their accomplishments. Um, it's a really dangerous thing who we surround ourselves with. You know, it's, it's scriptural. It's very clear, you know, that, um, You effectively become who you surround yourself with. Um, this also studies have shown economically, financially, uh, your circle plus or minus a 100,000 dollars is where you, you're going to end up. Um, it, but I am disgusted as the ladder climber. That's always looking for like a rich person to hang around. That's a disgusting person, but you know, the, the, the people that I get to spend time with are Joyful, kind, energy positive people that are incredibly successful as a bypro…

AI assessment note: “I think there's three kind of energies With people.”

Q questions in a second, but, um, what, like, this is a room full of either current owners or entrepreneurs or those who want to delve into it, and I'm sure all of them would love 60 seconds with Tim to say, like, what piece of advice would you give me? I know it's broad, but what would you give a group of aspiring on their way, uh, entrepreneurs and owners?

A Yeah, I mean, growth is not linear, you know, um, in business or more often as a person. You know, if, if you read my book, Scars and Stripes, um, you'll see failure after failure after failure after failure after failure. Um, I didn't fail at the same thing twice, um, so I'm either like extraordinarily versatile in all the ways that I can fail at something, um, Yeah, that's not an attribute that you want to be good at. Um, so I'm writing a book right now called The Purpose of Pain. And, um, this, every moment of growth in my life has come from adversity. Every single Opportunity for character development. The catalyst was a mistake. Um, you know, I put my hand on the stove and I burnt my hand. I learned not to put my hand on the stove. Um, I was dating Curia Gabriel Battaglia in college. She was like four or five years older than me. She was like a 10. I was young and like a six and a half. And, um, you know, when she's hooking up with like three other dudes, she broke my heart. I learned a lesson. You know, not, at the six, not to hook up with the 10, that, that, uh, you know, it's a good lesson.

AI assessment note: “growth is not linear, you know, um, in business or more often as a person.”

Q guys, and he gives the speech, and they're like, yeah, go. And then I asked Chris about it, and he's like, yeah, we basically don't do that, you just fuck it, you know, you just kind of go. But I was wondering, is there a leader from when you were in, or now, in a moment that inspired you incredibly? And why, and what happened, and what do you say?

A I've had so many great leaders around me. I promise, Scotty, I, I am Like, below average, especially in the worlds that I worked in, and work in the military. Being around true, talented, high performers, um, I'm like hanging onto their coattails, trying to like, I don't deserve to be here. Be able to contribute in some form or fashion, I think is what each of us really focus on. So I take this pie, and we break this pie into these slices, and each of these slices are Um, for our skill set is my, my job and my responsibility. So as an 18 Bravo, a special forces weapon sergeant, I had very specific things that I was in charge of. I had to make sure that the, the guns were loaded, that the headspace and timing for the two, uh, for the M two is all set or the Mark 19. Um, I had to make sure that the routes were all sets and get in with the 18 echo, that all the fills were good and that all the GPSs were preloaded and that everybody has everything like We're working and collaborating on that. In my piece of the pie, I have to make sure that I'm contributing to it. And my team sergeant isn't there again, like, alright, here's our motivating speech, guys, like.

AI assessment note: “And my team sergeant isn't there again, like, alright, here's our motivating speech”