Feb 5, 2025 · 1h 9m · bigdeal
The New Rich Do This | Sahil Bloom
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Host Codie Sanchez interviews author and former investor Sahil Bloom to explore actionable frameworks for high performance, intentional daily habits, and redefining wealth across time, relationships, health, purpose, and finances.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Codie holds 25.5% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Codie as informed peer 3.3 Guest teaching 4.3 Guest disagreement 0.1 Codie pushing back 0.1
speaking balance: gold is Codie, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 1:08:05 Pushing back on the 10-year quote
Sahil politely dissents from the famous Bill Gates quote on 10-year versus daily progress, asserting that one focused year is enough to radically reshape one's life.
Hardest push from Codie ▶ 7:50 Clarifying data vs personal opinionCodie directly checks whether Sahil's claim regarding phone visibility in conversations is rooted in scientific data or merely personal opinion.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 48:08 Harvard Study's primary health predictorSahil breaks down the 85-year Harvard longitudinal study, teaching how relationship satisfaction at age 50 outranks physical health metrics in forecasting longevity at 80.
Codie holds their own ▶ 35:07 Codie on historical family work integrationCodie demonstrates historical perspective by examining how family enterprise transitioned from standard societal practice to modern critiques of nepotism.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Codie as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Codie pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Morning Routines and Early Creative Writing | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0 | Codie introduces Sahil Bloom and prompts him to explain his widely known concept of the time billionaire. Sahil breaks down Graham Duncan's framework and the relative value of time versus money while Codie agrees. | |
| A Life-Altering Realization About Finite Family Time | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0 | Sahil shares the pivotal conversation that led him to leave finance and relocate closer to his aging parents. Codie listens attentively and affirms the importance of keeping honest friends. | |
| Digital Distractions, Presence, and Having Difficult Conversations | 4 | 4 | 0 | 1 | Codie asks whether Sahil's phone proximity rule is data-backed or personal opinion. Sahil cites research on conversational presence, walking meetings, and the compounding debt of avoided hard conversations. | |
| Physical Discipline and the ABC Habit Formation System | 3 | 5 | 0 | 0 | Codie asks Sahil for actionable habit-building tools after discussing morning ice baths. Sahil outlines his ABC goal framework designed to maintain compounding consistency even on low-energy days. | |
| Engineered Serendipity and Meeting Apple CEO Tim Cook | 2 | 5 | 0 | 0 | Sahil recounts how his 4:45 AM gym routine in Palo Alto led to an organic mentorship with Apple CEO Tim Cook. Codie highlights the rarity of combining high competence with persistent daily discipline. | |
| Owner Nation Virtual Event Announcement | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | Codie delivers a promotional spot for her Owner Nation virtual event before transitioning back into discussing non-transactional networking with Sahil. | |
| Human Storytelling and the Viral Queens Honeybee Hive | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0 | Sahil discusses why personal storytelling anchors effective frameworks, illustrating with a viral anecdote about 50,000 honeybees and a local Queens beekeeper. Codie connects this to documenting everyday life. | |
| Balancing Ambition with Parenthood and Present Energy | 4 | 5 | 0 | 0 | Codie brings up the friction between professional ambition and parenting. Sahil explains distinguishing raw time from present energy and sharing the underlying purpose with children. | |
| Mental Models: Philosophical Razors, Spotlight Effect, and Social Wealth | 3 | 5 | 0 | 0 | Codie and Sahil review decision-making mental models including Occam's razor, Hanlon's razor, and the spotlight effect. Sahil notes that people rarely monitor others as closely as assumed. | |
| The Harvard Study and the Five Dimensions of Wealth | 4 | 5 | 0 | 0 | Sahil details findings from the 85-year Harvard Study of Adult Development and outlines his five core dimensions of wealth beyond financial metrics. Codie reinforces the significance of relationships. | |
| Intentional Life Seasons, Marriage, and Mutual Support | 4 | 5 | 0 | 0 | Sahil discusses shifting priorities across distinct life seasons and how mutual support in marriage serves as an engine for professional and personal fulfillment. | |
| Family Legacy and the Power of Consistent Reliability | 3 | 4 | 1 | 0 | Sahil reflects on his grandfather's guidance on consistency over occasional brilliance and gently pushes back on a common quote about annual versus decade-long progress before closing. |
Statements from this episode (20)
Bloom: A 20-year-old possesses roughly two billion seconds of life
“A billion seconds is roughly 30 years. So like when you're 20, you have maybe two billion seconds left. When you're 50, you have a billion seconds. And that idea is a really important one because what it implies is that time is your most precious asset. It is …”
Bloom: Young people would not trade lives with Warren Buffett
“The question that I go and ask people, especially young people, is would you trade lives with Warren Buffett? He's worth a hundred thirty billion dollars. He has access to anyone in the world. He reads and learns for a living. He flies around on private jets, …”
Bloom: Visible phones during conversations scientifically reduce feelings of connection
“There is scientific evidence that if I have my phone out on the table, even face down while we're having a conversation, you and I experience less feelings of connection after that interaction than if I don't have my phone out in front of us.”
Bloom: Avoiding difficult conversations creates emotional debt repaid with interest
“When you avoid a hard conversation, you are taking on a debt that you have to repay with interest at a date in the future.”
Bloom: Walking during hard conversations is scientifically proven to improve them
“If you have a hard conversation with someone, going for a walk with them while you have the hard conversation is scientifically proven to improve that conversation.”
Bloom: Doing hard tasks early rewires brain for universal performance
“When you do a hard thing to start the day, if you can convince yourself to do that over and over and over again, You start to interact with the world differently. You rewire your brain to recognize that you are capable of taking an action and creating an outco…”
Sahil Bloom: Use an 'ABC system' to build minimum viable daily habits
“With any habit you are trying to build you create an A goal, a B goal, and a C goal. The A goal is your best case. That is the like best version of the thing during any given day. The B goal is sort of a baseline case. And then the C goal is the minimum viable…”
Sahil Bloom: Chatted with Tim Cook for six months without recognizing him
“So six months go by and I'm like talking to all these people early in the morning. And I was having a conversation with one guy and I walk away and someone comes up to me and is like, do you know who that is? That guy you were just talking to? And I was like, …”
Sahil Bloom: Steve Jobs interviewed Tim Cook for taking a startup job
“Steve Jobs was looking for someone to hire and saw his resume and like saw the IBM track and was like, oh, weird, big company guy, probably not a fit. Then saw that he had taken this job at this little startup, and was like maybe this guy's actually different …”
Bloom: Networking is dead because transactions prevent genuine relationships
“Networking is dead because it implies a transaction that is not conducive to building real relationships.”
Bloom: Tim Cook wakes up at 3:45 AM daily to work out
“He is the CEO of one of the largest companies in the world, and he wakes up at 3:45 every single day and goes and works out.”
Sahil Bloom: Documenting Real-Time Experiences Outperforms Engineered Content
“The most interesting content in the world is, like, journey-based content. We often think that these kind of, like, engineered moments are the thing that really drives content, but people want to hear about a human journey. They want to hear about, like, a rea…”
Bloom: Parents Are Their Child's Favorite Person for Only Ten Years
“For 10 years, you are your child's favorite person in the entire world. And after that, they have new favorite people. They have friends, best friends, boyfriends, girlfriends, partners, spouses, children of their own, and you will never occupy that same place…”
Bloom: Kids Assume Absent Parents Do Not Care Unless Told the 'Why'
“Your children need to understand the why, why you are doing the things you are doing. That is how you navigate this tension well, because what kids do is if you do not tell them the why of why you are excited about the things you're doing, why you are passiona…”
Bloom: People Give Themselves Too Much Grace Instead of Self-Accountability
“While I agree that occasionally we need to give ourselves a little bit of grace, I think for most people, we actually need to hold ourselves to the fire more often than not. I think we give ourselves too much grace and look, I like, maybe that's a harsh take, …”
Bloom: People rise to the level of expectations held by their circle
“There is clear scientific evidence that the people you surround yourself with determine your outcomes. The Pygmalion effect says that we rise to the level of expectations that others have for us in our circle.”
Bloom: Harvard study shows age-50 relationship satisfaction best predicts age-80 health
“The Harvard study of adult development is this incredible longitudinal study that was done over the course of 85 plus years. They tracked the lives of 1300 original participants and then all of their descendants, so like about 2000 plus people, and they found …”
Bloom: HBS study finds wealthy individuals say they need 2-5x more money to be happy
“Michael Norton, this Harvard Business School professor, went and interviewed high net worth individuals, people worth anywhere from a million on through a hundred million plus. And he asked them, how happy are you on a scale of one to 10? So they answered, and…”